Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter
Frank Xia <xiayangsong@huawei.com> Tue, 11 March 2008 22:29 UTC
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:30:58 -0500
From: Frank Xia <xiayangsong@huawei.com>
To: Vijay Devarapalli <vijay.devarapalli@azairenet.com>, 'Mipshop' <mipshop@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter
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Hi Vijay For Tunnel Optimization, why should we limit in Mobile IPv6 and HMIP6? I think it is also possible for PMIPv6 and Mobile IPv4. BR Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vijay Devarapalli" <vijay.devarapalli@azairenet.com> To: "'Mipshop'" <mipshop@ietf.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter > Hello, > > The MEXT working group has asked to take on some additional work. > This is about a mechanism to reduce the tunneling overhead due to > MIPv6 and HMIPv6. So we modified the charter to include this work > too. Here is the revised charter. Please review. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Mobility for IP: Performance, Signaling and Handoff Optimization (MIPSHOP) > > Description of Working Group: > > Mobile IPv6 enables IPv6 mobile nodes to continue using a given > "home address" in spite of changes in its point of attachment to > the network. These changes may cause delay, packet loss, and also > represent overhead traffic on the network. The MIPSHOP WG has so > far worked on two technologies to address these issues. > Hierarchical Mobile IPv6 (HMIPv6) reduces the amount and latency > of signaling between a MN, its Home Agent and one or more > correspondent nodes. Fast Handovers for Mobile IPv6 (FMIPv6) > reduces packet loss by providing fast IP connectivity as soon as > the mobile node establishes a new point of attachment at a new > link. > > The MIPSHOP WG will continue to work on HMIPv6 and FMIPv6, and > the necessary extensions to improve these protocols. The MIPSHOP > WG will also identify missing components that are required for > deploying these protocols and standardize the necessary extensions. > The WG will also address interworking of these protocols with other > mobility management protocols in the IETF, including network-based > mobility management protocols. > > The IEEE 802.21 Media Independent Handoff (MIH) working group aims > at providing services to assist with handoffs between heterogeneous > link-layer technologies, and across IP subnet boundaries. MIH > services can be delivered through link-layer specific solutions > and/or through a "layer 3 or above" protocol. MIPSHOP will define > the delivery of information for MIH services for this latter case. > A L3 based mechanism to identify a valid information server is also > required. The MIPSHOP will work on developing a protocol for > transport of MIH services information and mechanisms for discovering > the MIH server. Security for the transport of MIH information will > also be addressed. > > The widespread use of different forms of IP tunneling mechanisms > in mobile environment, e.g., MIPv6, HMIPv6, has a negative impact > on the protocol efficiency which is translated in the data packet > size, bandwidth usage and battery power consumption. Therefore, a > mechanism which enables reducing the tunneling overhead would > benefit the mobile node and optimize the bandwidth usage. The > MIPSHOP WG will standardize such a mechanism. > > The MOBOPTS Research Group in the IRTF is chartered to work on > optimizations related to Mobile IPv6 and IP handoffs among other > things. The MIPSHOP WG will take mature proposals from the MOBOPTS > group and standardize them in the IETF on a case-by-case basis. > > The MIPSHOP WG will also consider and standardize optimizations for > the Mobile IPv6 protocol and IP mobility in general. > > Scope of MIPSHOP: > > The working group will: > > 1. Complete the current set of documents with the IESG > - HMIPv6 (draft-ietf-mipshop-4140bis) > - FMIPv6 (draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis) > - FMIPv6 over IEEE 802.16e (draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e) > - FMIPv6 over 3G CDMA 2000 (draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh) > - MIH problem statement (draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps) > > 2. FMIPv6 Mobile Node - Access Router security using the AAA > infrastructure > > Currently MIPSHOP has produced a standards track protocol for > setting up security between the mobile node and access router > for security FMIPv6 signaling messages. However, the protocol > depends on SeND (Secure Neighbor Discovery) to be available on > the mobile node and the access router. An alternate mechanism > that leverages the AAA infrastructure is required. Many target > systems where FMIPv6 is likely to be used use a AAA > infrastructure to authenticate and authorize network access. > > 3. Prefix Management for point-to-point links > > Using FMIPv6 over point-to-points like requires some additional > considerations with respect to managing and allocating prefixes > for the mobile node on these point-to-point links. Therefore > the WG will work on a BCP to document these considerations. > > 4. Use of FMIPv6 with Proxy Mobile IPv6 > > Proxy Mobile IPv6 (PMIPv6) is a network-based mobility > management protocol where a node in the access network, called > the Mobile Access Gateway (MAG) handles mobility on behalf of > the mobile node. It has been proposed to use FMIPv6 to > optimize the handover in terms of reducing the packet loss and > transferring relevant context from the old MAG to the new MAG. > The working group will work on specifying FMIPv6 extensions to > enable fast handovers for PMIPv6. > > 5. Work on protocols and extensions for transporting information > related to IEEE 802.21: > > The work includes the layer 3 protocol for transporting MIH > related information and DHCP and DNS extensions for discovery > the information servers. > > 6. IP Tunneling Optimization > > Work on a mechanism to reduce the tunneling overhead associated > with protocols like Mobile IPv6 and HMIPv6. > > 7. Standardize mature proposals from the MOBOPTS IRTF Group > > > Goals and Milestones: > > Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-hmip-xx.txt > Done Working Group Last Call on > draft-ietf-mipshop-lmm-requirements-XX.txt > Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-xx.txt > Done Discuss Last Call comments and security analyses at IETF 58 > Done Submit draft draft-ietf-mipshop-lmm-requirements-XX.txt to IESG > for publication as Informational > Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-xx.txt to IESG for publication > as Experimental > Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-hmip-xx.txt to IESG for publication > as Experimental > Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-80211fh-xx.txt > for Informational > Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-80211fh-xx.txt to IESG for > publication as Informational > Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba-XX.txt > Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps > Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba to the IESG for publication > as Proposed Standard > Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis > Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-key-send > Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps to the IESG for publication as > Informational RFC > Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-rfc4041bis > Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh > Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e > Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis to the IESG for > publication as Proposed Standard > Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-key-send to the IESG for > publication as Proposed Standard > Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh to IESG for publication as > Informational RFC > Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e to IESG for publication as > Informational RFC > Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mih-support > Apr 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-4140bis to the IESG for > publication as Proposed Standard > Apr 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mih-support to the IESG for > publication as Proposed Standard > May 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery > May 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dhcp-options > Jun 2008 Working group last call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-ptp > Jun 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery to the IESG for > publication as Proposed Standard > Jun 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dhcp-options to the IESG for > publication as Proposed Standard > Jul 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6 > Jul 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-ptp to the IESG for > publication as Best Current Practice > Aug 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6 to the IESG for > publication as Proposed Standard > Aug 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-aaa-key > Oct 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-aaa-key to the IESG for > publication as Proposed Standard > Nov 2008 Working Group Last call on > draft-ietf-mipshop-tunneling-optimization > Jan 2009 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-tunneling-optimization to the the > IESG > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Vijay > _______________________________________________ > Mipshop mailing list > Mipshop@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mipshop > _______________________________________________ Mipshop mailing list Mipshop@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mipshop
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