Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter
Vijay Devarapalli <vijay.devarapalli@azairenet.com> Tue, 11 March 2008 22:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter
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Frank Xia wrote: > Hi Vijay > > For Tunnel Optimization, why should we limit in Mobile IPv6 and HMIP6? It wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list of protocols that tunnel. > I think it is also possible for PMIPv6 and Mobile IPv4. We have not taken on any work related to Mobile IPv4 so far. Vijay > > BR > Frank > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vijay Devarapalli" <vijay.devarapalli@azairenet.com> > To: "'Mipshop'" <mipshop@ietf.org> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter > > >> Hello, >> >> The MEXT working group has asked to take on some additional work. >> This is about a mechanism to reduce the tunneling overhead due to >> MIPv6 and HMIPv6. So we modified the charter to include this work >> too. Here is the revised charter. Please review. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Mobility for IP: Performance, Signaling and Handoff Optimization (MIPSHOP) >> >> Description of Working Group: >> >> Mobile IPv6 enables IPv6 mobile nodes to continue using a given >> "home address" in spite of changes in its point of attachment to >> the network. These changes may cause delay, packet loss, and also >> represent overhead traffic on the network. The MIPSHOP WG has so >> far worked on two technologies to address these issues. >> Hierarchical Mobile IPv6 (HMIPv6) reduces the amount and latency >> of signaling between a MN, its Home Agent and one or more >> correspondent nodes. Fast Handovers for Mobile IPv6 (FMIPv6) >> reduces packet loss by providing fast IP connectivity as soon as >> the mobile node establishes a new point of attachment at a new >> link. >> >> The MIPSHOP WG will continue to work on HMIPv6 and FMIPv6, and >> the necessary extensions to improve these protocols. The MIPSHOP >> WG will also identify missing components that are required for >> deploying these protocols and standardize the necessary extensions. >> The WG will also address interworking of these protocols with other >> mobility management protocols in the IETF, including network-based >> mobility management protocols. >> >> The IEEE 802.21 Media Independent Handoff (MIH) working group aims >> at providing services to assist with handoffs between heterogeneous >> link-layer technologies, and across IP subnet boundaries. MIH >> services can be delivered through link-layer specific solutions >> and/or through a "layer 3 or above" protocol. MIPSHOP will define >> the delivery of information for MIH services for this latter case. >> A L3 based mechanism to identify a valid information server is also >> required. The MIPSHOP will work on developing a protocol for >> transport of MIH services information and mechanisms for discovering >> the MIH server. Security for the transport of MIH information will >> also be addressed. >> >> The widespread use of different forms of IP tunneling mechanisms >> in mobile environment, e.g., MIPv6, HMIPv6, has a negative impact >> on the protocol efficiency which is translated in the data packet >> size, bandwidth usage and battery power consumption. Therefore, a >> mechanism which enables reducing the tunneling overhead would >> benefit the mobile node and optimize the bandwidth usage. The >> MIPSHOP WG will standardize such a mechanism. >> >> The MOBOPTS Research Group in the IRTF is chartered to work on >> optimizations related to Mobile IPv6 and IP handoffs among other >> things. The MIPSHOP WG will take mature proposals from the MOBOPTS >> group and standardize them in the IETF on a case-by-case basis. >> >> The MIPSHOP WG will also consider and standardize optimizations for >> the Mobile IPv6 protocol and IP mobility in general. >> >> Scope of MIPSHOP: >> >> The working group will: >> >> 1. Complete the current set of documents with the IESG >> - HMIPv6 (draft-ietf-mipshop-4140bis) >> - FMIPv6 (draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis) >> - FMIPv6 over IEEE 802.16e (draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e) >> - FMIPv6 over 3G CDMA 2000 (draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh) >> - MIH problem statement (draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps) >> >> 2. FMIPv6 Mobile Node - Access Router security using the AAA >> infrastructure >> >> Currently MIPSHOP has produced a standards track protocol for >> setting up security between the mobile node and access router >> for security FMIPv6 signaling messages. However, the protocol >> depends on SeND (Secure Neighbor Discovery) to be available on >> the mobile node and the access router. An alternate mechanism >> that leverages the AAA infrastructure is required. Many target >> systems where FMIPv6 is likely to be used use a AAA >> infrastructure to authenticate and authorize network access. >> >> 3. Prefix Management for point-to-point links >> >> Using FMIPv6 over point-to-points like requires some additional >> considerations with respect to managing and allocating prefixes >> for the mobile node on these point-to-point links. Therefore >> the WG will work on a BCP to document these considerations. >> >> 4. Use of FMIPv6 with Proxy Mobile IPv6 >> >> Proxy Mobile IPv6 (PMIPv6) is a network-based mobility >> management protocol where a node in the access network, called >> the Mobile Access Gateway (MAG) handles mobility on behalf of >> the mobile node. It has been proposed to use FMIPv6 to >> optimize the handover in terms of reducing the packet loss and >> transferring relevant context from the old MAG to the new MAG. >> The working group will work on specifying FMIPv6 extensions to >> enable fast handovers for PMIPv6. >> >> 5. Work on protocols and extensions for transporting information >> related to IEEE 802.21: >> >> The work includes the layer 3 protocol for transporting MIH >> related information and DHCP and DNS extensions for discovery >> the information servers. >> >> 6. IP Tunneling Optimization >> >> Work on a mechanism to reduce the tunneling overhead associated >> with protocols like Mobile IPv6 and HMIPv6. >> >> 7. Standardize mature proposals from the MOBOPTS IRTF Group >> >> >> Goals and Milestones: >> >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-hmip-xx.txt >> Done Working Group Last Call on >> draft-ietf-mipshop-lmm-requirements-XX.txt >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-xx.txt >> Done Discuss Last Call comments and security analyses at IETF 58 >> Done Submit draft draft-ietf-mipshop-lmm-requirements-XX.txt to IESG >> for publication as Informational >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-xx.txt to IESG for publication >> as Experimental >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-hmip-xx.txt to IESG for publication >> as Experimental >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-80211fh-xx.txt >> for Informational >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-80211fh-xx.txt to IESG for >> publication as Informational >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba-XX.txt >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba to the IESG for publication >> as Proposed Standard >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-key-send >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps to the IESG for publication as >> Informational RFC >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-rfc4041bis >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis to the IESG for >> publication as Proposed Standard >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-key-send to the IESG for >> publication as Proposed Standard >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh to IESG for publication as >> Informational RFC >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e to IESG for publication as >> Informational RFC >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mih-support >> Apr 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-4140bis to the IESG for >> publication as Proposed Standard >> Apr 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mih-support to the IESG for >> publication as Proposed Standard >> May 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery >> May 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dhcp-options >> Jun 2008 Working group last call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-ptp >> Jun 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery to the IESG for >> publication as Proposed Standard >> Jun 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dhcp-options to the IESG for >> publication as Proposed Standard >> Jul 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6 >> Jul 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-ptp to the IESG for >> publication as Best Current Practice >> Aug 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6 to the IESG for >> publication as Proposed Standard >> Aug 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-aaa-key >> Oct 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-aaa-key to the IESG for >> publication as Proposed Standard >> Nov 2008 Working Group Last call on >> draft-ietf-mipshop-tunneling-optimization >> Jan 2009 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-tunneling-optimization to the the >> IESG >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Vijay >> _______________________________________________ >> Mipshop mailing list >> Mipshop@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mipshop >> _______________________________________________ Mipshop mailing list Mipshop@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mipshop
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