Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter

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Hello, Regarding Tunnel optimization in FMIPv6, a draft has already been submitted called "Proactive Bindings in FMIPv6" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/draft-yousaf-ietf-mipshop-pbfmipv6/) in which a proposal regarding the reduction of the tunnel duration has already been proposed. At the moment we are performing simulation and measurement tests and the initial results are  very encouraging, however i will be able to share more details after about one month. BR Zarrar Yousaf

> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:38:52 -0500> From: xiayangsong@huawei.com> To: vijay.devarapalli@azairenet.com> CC: mipshop@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter> > Hi Vijay> > Please see my reply..> > BR> Frank> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vijay Devarapalli" <vijay.devarapalli@azairenet.com>> To: "Frank Xia" <xiayangsong@huawei.com>> Cc: "'Mipshop'" <mipshop@ietf.org>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:29 PM> Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter> > > > Frank Xia wrote:> > > Hi Vijay> > > > > > For Tunnel Optimization, why should we limit in Mobile IPv6 and HMIP6?> > > > It wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list of protocols that> > tunnel.> Frank=>IMO, it is a little bit ambiguous. For example,> why is HMIP6 is highlighted? why isn't FMIP6 highlighted?> It will be helpful if you make it clearer.> > > > > > I think it is also possible for PMIPv6 and Mobile IPv4.> > > > We have not taken on any work related to Mobile IPv4 so far.> > > > Vijay> > > > > > > > BR> > > Frank> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Vijay Devarapalli" <vijay.devarapalli@azairenet.com>> > > To: "'Mipshop'" <mipshop@ietf.org>> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:12 PM> > > Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter> > > > > > > > >> Hello,> > >>> > >> The MEXT working group has asked to take on some additional work.> > >> This is about a mechanism to reduce the tunneling overhead due to> > >> MIPv6 and HMIPv6. So we modified the charter to include this work> > >> too. Here is the revised charter. Please review.> > >>> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > >>> > >> Mobility for IP: Performance, Signaling and Handoff Optimization (MIPSHOP)> > >>> > >> Description of Working Group:> > >>> > >> Mobile IPv6 enables IPv6 mobile nodes to continue using a given> > >> "home address" in spite of changes in its point of attachment to> > >> the network. These changes may cause delay, packet loss, and also> > >> represent overhead traffic on the network. The MIPSHOP WG has so> > >> far worked on two technologies to address these issues.> > >> Hierarchical Mobile IPv6 (HMIPv6) reduces the amount and latency> > >> of signaling between a MN, its Home Agent and one or more> > >> correspondent nodes. Fast Handovers for Mobile IPv6 (FMIPv6)> > >> reduces packet loss by providing fast IP connectivity as soon as> > >> the mobile node establishes a new point of attachment at a new> > >> link.> > >>> > >> The MIPSHOP WG will continue to work on HMIPv6 and FMIPv6, and> > >> the necessary extensions to improve these protocols. The MIPSHOP> > >> WG will also identify missing components that are required for> > >> deploying these protocols and standardize the necessary extensions.> > >> The WG will also address interworking of these protocols with other> > >> mobility management protocols in the IETF, including network-based> > >> mobility management protocols.> > >>> > >> The IEEE 802.21 Media Independent Handoff (MIH) working group aims> > >> at providing services to assist with handoffs between heterogeneous> > >> link-layer technologies, and across IP subnet boundaries. MIH> > >> services can be delivered through link-layer specific solutions> > >> and/or through a "layer 3 or above" protocol. MIPSHOP will define> > >> the delivery of information for MIH services for this latter case.> > >> A L3 based mechanism to identify a valid information server is also> > >> required. The MIPSHOP will work on developing a protocol for> > >> transport of MIH services information and mechanisms for discovering> > >> the MIH server. Security for the transport of MIH information will> > >> also be addressed.> > >>> > >> The widespread use of different forms of IP tunneling mechanisms> > >> in mobile environment, e.g., MIPv6, HMIPv6, has a negative impact> > >> on the protocol efficiency which is translated in the data packet> > >> size, bandwidth usage and battery power consumption. Therefore, a> > >> mechanism which enables reducing the tunneling overhead would> > >> benefit the mobile node and optimize the bandwidth usage. The> > >> MIPSHOP WG will standardize such a mechanism.> > >>> > >> The MOBOPTS Research Group in the IRTF is chartered to work on> > >> optimizations related to Mobile IPv6 and IP handoffs among other> > >> things. The MIPSHOP WG will take mature proposals from the MOBOPTS> > >> group and standardize them in the IETF on a case-by-case basis.> > >>> > >> The MIPSHOP WG will also consider and standardize optimizations for> > >> the Mobile IPv6 protocol and IP mobility in general.> > >>> > >> Scope of MIPSHOP:> > >>> > >> The working group will:> > >>> > >> 1. Complete the current set of documents with the IESG> > >> - HMIPv6 (draft-ietf-mipshop-4140bis)> > >> - FMIPv6 (draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis)> > >> - FMIPv6 over IEEE 802.16e (draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e)> > >> - FMIPv6 over 3G CDMA 2000 (draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh)> > >> - MIH problem statement (draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps)> > >>> > >> 2. FMIPv6 Mobile Node - Access Router security using the AAA> > >> infrastructure> > >>> > >> Currently MIPSHOP has produced a standards track protocol for> > >> setting up security between the mobile node and access router> > >> for security FMIPv6 signaling messages. However, the protocol> > >> depends on SeND (Secure Neighbor Discovery) to be available on> > >> the mobile node and the access router. An alternate mechanism> > >> that leverages the AAA infrastructure is required. Many target> > >> systems where FMIPv6 is likely to be used use a AAA> > >> infrastructure to authenticate and authorize network access.> > >>> > >> 3. Prefix Management for point-to-point links> > >>> > >> Using FMIPv6 over point-to-points like requires some additional> > >> considerations with respect to managing and allocating prefixes> > >> for the mobile node on these point-to-point links. Therefore> > >> the WG will work on a BCP to document these considerations.> > >>> > >> 4. Use of FMIPv6 with Proxy Mobile IPv6> > >>> > >> Proxy Mobile IPv6 (PMIPv6) is a network-based mobility> > >> management protocol where a node in the access network, called> > >> the Mobile Access Gateway (MAG) handles mobility on behalf of> > >> the mobile node. It has been proposed to use FMIPv6 to> > >> optimize the handover in terms of reducing the packet loss and> > >> transferring relevant context from the old MAG to the new MAG.> > >> The working group will work on specifying FMIPv6 extensions to> > >> enable fast handovers for PMIPv6.> > >>> > >> 5. Work on protocols and extensions for transporting information> > >> related to IEEE 802.21:> > >>> > >> The work includes the layer 3 protocol for transporting MIH> > >> related information and DHCP and DNS extensions for discovery> > >> the information servers.> > >>> > >> 6. IP Tunneling Optimization> > >>> > >> Work on a mechanism to reduce the tunneling overhead associated> > >> with protocols like Mobile IPv6 and HMIPv6.> > >>> > >> 7. Standardize mature proposals from the MOBOPTS IRTF Group> > >>> > >>> > >> Goals and Milestones:> > >>> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-hmip-xx.txt> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on > > >> draft-ietf-mipshop-lmm-requirements-XX.txt> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-xx.txt> > >> Done Discuss Last Call comments and security analyses at IETF 58> > >> Done Submit draft draft-ietf-mipshop-lmm-requirements-XX.txt to IESG > > >> for publication as Informational> > >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-xx.txt to IESG for publication > > >> as Experimental> > >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-hmip-xx.txt to IESG for publication > > >> as Experimental> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-80211fh-xx.txt > > >> for Informational> > >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-80211fh-xx.txt to IESG for > > >> publication as Informational> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba-XX.txt> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps> > >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba to the IESG for publication > > >> as Proposed Standard> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-key-send> > >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps to the IESG for publication as > > >> Informational RFC> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-rfc4041bis> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e> > >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis to the IESG for > > >> publication as Proposed Standard> > >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-key-send to the IESG for > > >> publication as Proposed Standard> > >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh to IESG for publication as > > >> Informational RFC> > >> Done Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e to IESG for publication as > > >> Informational RFC> > >> Done Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mih-support> > >> Apr 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-4140bis to the IESG for > > >> publication as Proposed Standard> > >> Apr 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mih-support to the IESG for > > >> publication as Proposed Standard> > >> May 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery> > >> May 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dhcp-options> > >> Jun 2008 Working group last call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-ptp> > >> Jun 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery to the IESG for > > >> publication as Proposed Standard> > >> Jun 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dhcp-options to the IESG for > > >> publication as Proposed Standard> > >> Jul 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6> > >> Jul 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-ptp to the IESG for > > >> publication as Best Current Practice> > >> Aug 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6 to the IESG for > > >> publication as Proposed Standard> > >> Aug 2008 Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-aaa-key> > >> Oct 2008 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-aaa-key to the IESG for > > >> publication as Proposed Standard> > >> Nov 2008 Working Group Last call on > > >> draft-ietf-mipshop-tunneling-optimization> > >> Jan 2009 Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-tunneling-optimization to the the > > >> IESG> > >>> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------> > >>> > >> Vijay> > >> _______________________________________________> > >> Mipshop mailing list> > >> Mipshop@ietf.org> > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mipshop> > >>> > > > > _______________________________________________> Mipshop mailing list> Mipshop@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mipshop
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