Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter

Frank Xia <xiayangsong@huawei.com> Wed, 19 March 2008 14:32 UTC

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:30:04 -0500
From: Frank Xia <xiayangsong@huawei.com>
To: Mohamed Khalil <mkhalil@nortel.com>, Vijay Devarapalli <vijay.devarapalli@AzaireNet.com>, mipshop@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter
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Hi Mohamed 

IMO, I don't think it makes sense of the reason.

We are talking about rechartering which means we
should expand or modify the original charter.

MIPSHOP is the best place for HANDOVER. 

BR
Frank

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mohamed Khalil" <mkhalil@nortel.com>
To: "Vijay Devarapalli" <vijay.devarapalli@AzaireNet.com>; <mipshop@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter


> 
> According to my understanding of the scope of MIPSHOP, MIPSHOP WG should
> handle handoff optimization related to mobile node initiated mobility
> protocols. Based on this I support handling PMIP6 handover optimization
> in NETLMM WG.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mohamed Khalil
> 
>  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mipshop-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mipshop-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Vijay Devarapalli
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:19 PM
> To: 'Mipshop'
> Subject: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter
> 
> Hello folks,
> 
> Here is the first draft of the text for a new charter for the MIPSHOP
> WG. Please review and comment.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Mobility for IP: Performance, Signaling and Handoff Optimization
> (MIPSHOP)
> 
> Description of Working Group:
> 
> Mobile IPv6 enables IPv6 mobile nodes to continue using a given "home
> address" in spite of changes in its point of attachment to the network.
> These changes may cause delay, packet loss, and also represent overhead
> traffic on the network.  The MIPSHOP WG has so far worked on two
> technologies to address these issues. Hierarchical Mobile IPv6 (HMIPv6)
> reduces the amount and latency of signaling between a MN, its Home Agent
> and one or more correspondent nodes.  Fast Handovers for Mobile IPv6
> (FMIPv6) reduces packet loss by providing fast IP connectivity as soon
> as the mobile node establishes a new point of attachment at a new link.
> 
> The MIPSHOP WG will continue to work on HMIPv6 and FMIPv6, and the
> necessary extensions to improve these protocols.  The MIPSHOP WG will
> also identify missing components that are required for deploying these
> protocols and standardize the necessary extensions. The WG will also
> address interworking of these protocols with other mobility management
> protocols in the IETF, including network-based mobility management
> protocols.
> 
> The IEEE 802.21 Media Independent Handoff (MIH) working group aims at
> providing services to assist with handoffs between heterogeneous
> link-layer technologies, and across IP subnet boundaries.  MIH services
> can be delivered through link-layer specific solutions and/or through a
> "layer 3 or above" protocol.  MIPSHOP will define the delivery of
> information for MIH services for this latter case. A L3 based mechanism
> to identify a valid information server is also required.  The MIPSHOP
> will work on developing a protocol for transport of MIH services
> information and mechanisms for discovering the MIH server. Security for
> the transport of MIH information will also be addressed.
> 
> The MOBOPTS Research Group in the IRTF is chartered to work on
> optimizations related to Mobile IPv6 and IP handoffs among other things.
> The MIPSHOP WG will take mature proposals from the MOBOPTS group and
> standardize them in the IETF on a case-by-case basis.
> 
> The MIPSHOP WG will also consider and standardize optimizations for the
> Mobile IPv6 protocol and IP mobility in general.
> 
> Scope of MIPSHOP:
> 
> The working group will:
> 
> 1. Complete the current set of documents with the IESG
>     - HMIPv6 (draft-ietf-mipshop-4140bis)
>     - FMIPv6 (draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis)
>     - FMIPv6 over IEEE 802.16e (draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e)
>     - FMIPv6 over 3G CDMA 2000 (draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh)
>     - MIH problem statement (draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps)
> 
> 2. FMIPv6 Mobile Node - Access Router security using the AAA
>     infrastructure
> 
>     Currently MIPSHOP has produced a standards track protocol for
>     setting up security between the mobile node and access router
>     for security FMIPv6 signaling messages. However, the protocol
>     depends on SeND (Secure Neighbor Discovery) to be available on
>     the mobile node and the access router.  An alternate mechanism
>     that leverages the AAA infrastructure is required.  Many target
>     systems where FMIPv6 is likely to be used use a AAA
>     infrastructure to authenticate and authorize network access.
> 
> 3. Prefix Management for point-to-point links
> 
>     Using FMIPv6 over point-to-points like requires some additional
>     considerations with respect to managing and allocating prefixes
>     for the mobile node on these point-to-point links.  Therefore
>     the WG will work on a BCP to document these considerations.
> 
> 4. Use of FMIPv6 with Proxy Mobile IPv6
> 
>     Proxy Mobile IPv6 (PMIPv6) is a network-based mobility
>     management protocol where a node in the access network, called
>     the Mobile Access Gateway (MAG) handles mobility on behalf of
>     the mobile node.  It has been proposed to use FMIPv6 to
>     optimize the handover in terms of reducing the packet loss and
>     transferring relevant context from the old MAG to the new MAG.
>     The working group will work on specifying FMIPv6 extensions to
>     enable fast handovers for PMIPv6.
> 
> 5. Work on protocols and extensions for transporting information
>     related to IEEE 802.21:
> 
>     The work includes the layer 3 protocol for transporting MIH
>     related information and DHCP and DNS extensions for discovery
>     the information servers.
> 
> 6. Standardize mature proposals from the MOBOPTS IRTF Group
> 
> 
> Goals and Milestones:
> 
> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-hmip-xx.txt
> Done     Working Group Last Call on 
> draft-ietf-mipshop-lmm-requirements-XX.txt
> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-xx.txt
> Done     Discuss Last Call comments and security analyses at IETF 58
> Done     Submit draft draft-ietf-mipshop-lmm-requirements-XX.txt to IESG
> 
> for publication as Informational
> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-xx.txt to IESG for publication
> 
> as Experimental
> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-hmip-xx.txt to IESG for publication 
> as Experimental
> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-80211fh-xx.txt 
> for Informational
> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-80211fh-xx.txt to IESG for 
> publication as Informational
> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba-XX.txt
> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps
> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba to IESG for publication as 
> Proposed Standard
> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis
> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-key-send
> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps to IESG for publication as 
> Informational RFC
> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-rfc4041bis
> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh
> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e
> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis to IESG for 
> publication as Proposed Standard
> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-key-send to IESG for 
> publication as Proposed Standard
> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh to IESG for publication as 
> Informational RFC
> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e to IESG for publication as 
> Informational RFC
> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mih-support
> Apr 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-4140bis to IESG for publication 
> as Proposed Standard
> Apr 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mih-support to IESG for 
> publication as Proposed Standard
> May 2008     Working Group Last Call on
> draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery
> May 2008     Working Group Last Call on
> draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dhcp-options
> Jun 2008     Working group last call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-ptp
> Jun 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery to IESG for 
> publication as Proposed Standard
> Jun 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dhcp-options to IESG for 
> publication as Proposed Standard
> Jul 2008     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6
> Jul 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-ptp to IESG for 
> publication as Best Current Practice
> Aug 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6 to IESG for publication 
> as Proposed Standard
> Aug 2008     Working Group Last Call on
> draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-aaa-key
> Oct 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-aaa-key to IESG for 
> publication as Proposed Standard
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----
> 
> Vijay
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