RE: [Mipshop] MIPSHOP discussion on new items and milestones

["Soliman, Hesham" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Gab, 

Here is the email I was referring to.

Hesham

 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]On
 > Behalf Of gabriel montenegro
 > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 2:15 PM
 > To: [e-mail]
 > Subject: Re: [Mipshop] MIPSHOP discussion on new items and milestones
 > 
 > 
 > Folks,
 > 
 > Thanks for the excellent exchange so far. At this point, 
 > based on what I've
 > seen, I'd like to share with you how I'm seeing things.
 > 
 > 
 > MN-AR security
 > 	seems like there is sufficient interest and this item is
 > 	narrow enough to warrant further work on the SeND key
 > 	reuse method as well as to develop a AAA-based solution.
 > 	Whereas we believe there may be some IPR-issues to clarify
 > 	with the SeND based approach (in spite of Jim's interpretation)
 > 	we don't have the same clarity with respect to the AAA approach.
 > 	Please come forward with your IPR disclosures on this. 
 > This is not
 > 	optional.
 > 	
 > 	looking at 2 PS documents.
 > 
 > FMIPv6 itself
 > 	I'd postpone this item given that we don't have a clear 
 > understandiung
 > 	of what the exact relationship with DNA, CARD, 802.21 
 > and the forthcoming
 > 	neighborhood discovery is (and heck, there's even a 
 > proposal for dhcp).
 > 	I'm inclined not to include it for now
 > 	until we know more, and look into it again until a few 
 > months have
 > 	gone by and we have a better grasp of the security and 
 > the discovery
 > 	portions. The former to continue here, the latter to 
 > continue elsewhere
 > 	(e.g., mobopts).
 > 
 > FMIP-over-cdma
 > 	This experimental document is a useful exercise to 
 > better understand
 > 	deployment considerations and the above issues. It's 
 > also good in that
 > 	it encourages another SDO to seriously think about 
 > this, even if it is
 > 	in a preliminary manner (I don't believe they have 
 > firms and urgent
 > 	deployment plans). I have heard of at least two groups 
 > of folks in
 > 	the working group interested in this. You know who you 
 > are, and you
 > 	should work together on one document. Highly desirable: 
 > go through the
 > 	regular channels (ietf liaisons) and produce a document 
 > from 3GPP2
 > 	on this subject.
 > 
 > 	looking at one informational document
 > 
 > MN-MAP security for HMIPv6
 > 	I'd like to think that such an item could be included, 
 > but we do need to see
 > 	a draft on this subject in very short order. 
 > Conceptually, it does not seem
 > 	a much more difficult problem than MN-AR security, so 
 > depending on how quickly
 > 	the relevant draft can be produced, this could be 
 > entertained. It seems to me
 > 	that without this piece in place, talking about other 
 > HMIP work in MIPSHOP
 > 	is premature (but it should continue elsewhere). Like 
 > FMIP, other work could
 > 	be taken on later on.
 > 
 > 	perhaps (if a first solid draft appears shortly) one PS document
 > 
 > RO issues
 > 	Not clear how much of EBU is new and how much is just 
 > further language on
 > 	rfc 3775. At any rate, it does seem like a CGA-based 
 > scheme could be
 > 	worked on (heck, the basic concept has been around for 
 > ages), using
 > 	omip as a starting point. Highly desirable: go through 
 > the ietf channels
 > 	and using the proper liaisons obtain a message from the 
 > SDOs reputedly
 > 	interested in this item. This document would have the 
 > precondition for
 > 	CBA (authenticated notification of CoA change to the 
 > CN). Ideally, we'd
 > 	have a very simple CBA scheme in place as well.  Both 
 > of these mechanism
 > 	would be optional (i.e., we're not in the business of 
 > replacing RR).
 > 
 > 	looking at one PS document.
 > 	
 > 
 > This gives us a lot already, perhaps too much:
 > 	(up to) 4 PS documents (perhaps 3)
 > 	1 informational document
 > 
 > I don't think we want to take on any more load for now. As 
 > we complete
 > items, we will look into it (as we are doing now).
 > 
 > This may not be everybody's favorite list, but hopefully it 
 > works reasonably well
 > (or at least *maximizes the distribution of unhappiness*, as 
 > Brian put it at the plenary).
 > 
 > comments? close enough, way off?
 > 
 > -gabriel
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 	
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