Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111
Dan Olivares <dcolivares@gmail.com> Mon, 23 February 2009 17:09 UTC
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This letter is an example of a False Dilemma logical fallacy.(http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/false-dilemma.html) "Either there must be a mandate to protect content, or nobody will protect content", when in fact, people will protect content based on their business model, not by some arbitrary mandate. Some will require contracts for interoperability that state that content protection metadata must be honored. Bringing up OpenSim with regards to this is also purely a 'Poisioning of the Well' logical fallacy. "OpenSimulator is Lennist, therefore it's wrong" (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/poisoning-the-well.html) Best Regards Dan On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM, dyerbrookme@juno.com <dyerbrookme@juno.com> wrote: > <For someone talking about choice so much you seem very preconcerned > with mandating what choices VW providers make. Nothing wrong with > putting a field in the asset metadata for permissions stuff, but it > definitely should NOT be a mandatory part of the standard. > > It's absolutely about choice. Stripping DRM out as a mandate and removing the mandate is not choice, but a forced march, under the guise that the mandate would remove choice. In fact, the receiving grid has the choice not to hook up to such grids that have these requirements and it can also defeat them, and then signal to those who care that it is not trustworthy; that should be at the heart of what trustworthy means. Why is the onus only on the sending grid? Collective security isn't about one wild grid getting to defeat the business requirements of all the others under the false flag of choice, it's about collective security; the wild grid can keep its wild DRM-less regime on its own server with its own sandboxers. OpenSim says the opposite, make a silo of permissions on one server as a module, thereby negating commerce as a premise to the architecture. > > ____________________________________________________________ > Switch to the thrill of high speed internet for $19.95/mo with AT&T > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTEs5PjpChbas9zvDZy3dlMmvxUDX7C8QybUtHYlw74vEVquQpBJcP/ > _______________________________________________ > mmox mailing list > mmox@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmox >
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 dyerbrookme@juno.com
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 dyerbrookme@juno.com
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 dyerbrookme@juno.com
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- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 dyerbrookme@juno.com
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 dyerbrookme@juno.com
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 dyerbrookme@juno.com
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 Kajikawa Jeremy