Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions - text proposal

Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> Wed, 02 March 2016 22:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions - text proposal
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> On 1 Mar 2016, at 19:06, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> On 3/1/16 1:23 PM, Roman Shpount wrote:
> 
>> What really bugs me about this discussion is that it is extremely
>> difficult to determine when RTP session is started or stopped based on
>> O/A exchanges. Because of this it is difficult to determine when it is
>> safe to reuse PT for something else just by looking at O/A.
> 
> Well, can we assume that if the addr/port changes at one of the ends then this is to be a new RTP session?

The RTP session is tied to the shared SSRC space. If the same SSRCs are valid after the change, it’s the same RTP session.

> Are there cases where nothing in the SDP changes but a new RTP session is established? (Or can we require signaling in this case?)
> 
> Maybe we need to start using the a=connection attribute with RTP to indicate change of RTP session. :-)
> 
> 	Thanks,
> 	Paul
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