Re: [Model-t] Primer

Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 05 August 2019 15:33 UTC

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Here is another good document that was written by a friend of mine.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet-00 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet-00>


Thanks,
Bret
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> On Aug 5, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Here is an I-D that some might find helpful as we talk about this problem and how we best solve it.  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-taddei-smart-cless-introduction-00 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-taddei-smart-cless-introduction-00>
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> Thanks,
> Bret
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