Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-sr-04
Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Thu, 07 January 2021 03:30 UTC
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From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 19:30:25 -0800
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To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-sr-04
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Hi Loa, et al., RFC 8169 uses TTL expiration to achieve processing at each RTM-capable node. That approach creates a state in transient nodes and may not fit with the "no state" paradigm of the Segment Routing. And I've got a question. AFAIK, the presence of ACH in an MPLS LSP is indicated by GAL. Is there an intention to introduce another (E)SPL for that? Regards, Greg On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 7:20 PM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote: > Stewart, > > If we want to make sure that packets are processed at evey node, is the > new FEC complementary to the ACH-header or an alternative? > > /Loa > > On 05/01/2021 00:30, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > > > > >> On 4 Jan 2021, at 14:38, Rakesh Gandhi (rgandhi) > >> <rgandhi=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org > >> <mailto:rgandhi=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: > >> > >> <RG> Yes, this is similar to the entropy label where a mid-point node > >> needs to scan the label stack to find the indicator label. We can add > >> some text to clarify this. There is already an optimization to use a > >> different indicator label for HbH compared to E2E case to > >> unnecessarily avoid parsing the IOAM data fields. > > > > The EL is entirely optional to process. It is no more than a hint to use > > in ECMP and there is no architectural requirement to find it to operate > > correctly. > > > > If iOAM is purely a option then you could scan the stack and hope that > > you can reach down far enough to find it. Though there is a fight to see > > who gets to be the lowest label in range of the forwarding parser. > > > > If you want to be sure that iOAM is processed HxH then you really need > > to run it on a new FEC with that behaviour built into the FEC. That > > would be the architected way of doing this in MPLS. > > > > - Stewart > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mpls mailing list > > mpls@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > > -- > > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >
- [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-s… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… tom petch
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Rakesh Gandhi
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-s… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Rakesh Gandhi (rgandhi)
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Eric Gray
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Eric Gray
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Rakesh Gandhi (rgandhi)
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… John E Drake
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Rakesh Gandhi (rgandhi)
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT Review of draft-gandhi-mpls-io… Rakesh Gandhi