Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution for NATs
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:22:04 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Joe Abley <jabley@ca.afilias.info>
Cc: Roy Arends <roy@nominet.org.uk>, namedroppers@ops.ietf.org, Alessandro.Linari@nominet.org.uk
Subject: Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution for NATs
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On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:57:25AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: > > On 21 Jul 2008, at 07:17, Roy Arends wrote: > > >A simple, straightforward method to increase entropy in DNS message > >transaction, is to query for the same name twice (or N times for > >even more > >increased entropy) and require that the answers be the same. This does > >require a change to the resolver, but not to the authoritative server. > > This will lead to trouble if the query is ever answered by one of a > cluster of servers, where there is the potential for some servers in > the cluster to be slightly more up-to-date than others. > > It also might lead to trouble if the query is ever answered by a > single-source server which updates between query i and query j for > some j>i. > > Joe welcome to the loose coherency feature of the DNS. --bill -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: <http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/>
- increasing DNS message entropy, a solution for NA… Roy Arends
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Joe Abley
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… bmanning
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Roy Arends
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Alex Bligh
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Roy Arends
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Alex Bligh
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Roy Arends
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… bert hubert
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Masataka Ohta
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Duane
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Joe Abley
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Joe Abley
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Joe Abley
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Doug Barton
- there is a leak: message entropy increase urgent bert hubert
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- Re: there is a leak: message entropy increase urg… Mark Andrews
- Re: there is a leak: message entropy increase urg… bert hubert
- Re: there is a leak: message entropy increase urg… Paul Vixie
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Tony Finch
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Ben Laurie
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Masataka Ohta
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Alex Bligh
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- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Ben Laurie
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Ben Laurie
- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Ben Laurie
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- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Duane
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- Re: increasing DNS message entropy, a solution fo… Ben Laurie
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