Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa
Rene Struik <rstruik.ext@gmail.com> Thu, 19 January 2012 21:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa
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There may be IPR about representing Q:=(x,y) in a compressed format Q':=(x,y'), where one can *faithfully* reconstruct Q from Q' and the elliptic curve domain parameters alone (so-called lossless compression). To my knowledge, any *lossy* compression technique, including representing Q:=(x,y) by its x-coordinate x only, is not covered at all by IPR. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt should not be based on not understanding the difference between these two compression methods (or portraying everything under the universe vaguely similar suspect). Sadly, it apparently is. (But, perhaps, an "favored" way to mute discussion on technical merit and portraying the world in black-and-white terms (the nuclear option, so to speak).) -50 Rene On 19/01/2012 4:05 PM, Michael StJohns wrote: > At 02:30 PM 1/19/2012, Paul Hoffman wrote: >>> I am curious as to why "nobody" supported squeezing down message sizes. >>> Was this seriously considered? What was the technical rationale for not >>> supporting my modest suggestions. >> I cannot speak for everyone, but I can say why I didn't support it: it would possibly involve IPR hassles. The IPR hassles are not worth it here, in my opinion. > +50.... > > EC point compression is a known IPR rat hole. AIRC - The group chose to slap a thick timber across the hole and glue and nail it down. > > Mike > > -- email: rstruik.ext@gmail.com Skype: rstruik cell: +1 (647) 867-5658 USA Google voice: +1 (415) 690-7363 _______________________________________________ dnsext mailing list dnsext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsext
- [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa Rene Struik
- Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa Rene Struik
- Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa Rene Struik
- Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa Rene Struik
- Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa Michael StJohns
- Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa Rene Struik
- Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dnsext] Summary WGLC: draft-ietf-dnsext-ecdsa Andrew Sullivan