Re: [Nethistory] The Internet, Architecture, Governance, Technical Work and Net History: A Speci

Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> Tue, 23 April 2019 03:55 UTC

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 10:55:49 +0700
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Dear Hesham and All,


There is a need for correction for the earlier message:

The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed before--
was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles of the
Internet" (1996) as the latter considered complexity (control) in relation
with the Internet in large scale...

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt

It should be:

The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed before--
was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles of the
Internet" (1996) as the first considered complexity (control) in relation
with the Internet in large scale...

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt


Regard,
Gintur Wiseno Putra

Pada Selasa, 23 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>; menulis:

> Dear Hesham and All,
>
> The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed before--
> was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles of the
> Internet" (1996) as the latter considered complexity (control) in relation
> with the Internet in large scale...
>
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt
>
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
>
> Pada Senin, 22 April 2019, Hesham ElBakoury <Hesham.ElBakoury@huawei.com>;
> menulis:
>
>> I think you meant RFC1958 which is updated by RFC3439.
>>
>> Hesham
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Architecture-discuss [mailto:architecture-discuss-b
>> ounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Guntur Wiseno Putra
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 6:41 AM
>> *To:* architecture-discuss@ietf.org; internetgovtech@iab.org;
>> nethistory@ietf.org
>> *Subject:* [arch-d] The Internet, Architecture, Governance, Technical
>> Work and Net History: A Speci
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Of the question "What is the Internet Architecture?" mentioned in the
>> earlier message:
>>
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>>
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>> Brian. E. Carpenter's text "RFC 1985: Architectural Principles of the
>> Internet" mentioned about Internet protocols and their design: May this
>> links helpful to get arrived there at related archives ( as the text did
>> not use any online source but suppposedly paper ones as references)...:
>>
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>>
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>> - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search?name=
>>
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>> - https://www.rfc-editor.org/
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>>
>>
>>   Here are  menus "Internet Standard", "Official Internet Protocol
>> Standards", and "advanced search".
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regard,
>>
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>> Pada Senin, 22 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>;
>> menulis:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Individuals, or collectifs of individuals, are in an age of the Internet.
>> It is such a presence may be approached and sensed by many ways --even when
>> one said that s/he had just eat a food which a receipt was gotten by
>> communicating by the Internet..
>>
>>
>>
>> Among others there are presences of "the Internet Architecture",
>> "Internet Governance and Technical Work" and "Net History" as they
>> represent interest-based mailing lists. How could one get arrived into
>> those matters (together) --such a programmatic readership/learning: as
>> sources and concepts have history and discources collectives/net... ?
>> Should we imagine about information sources by making such a readership
>> based on the linkage between the three...? Thus we may say about "The
>> Internet Architecture, Governance and Technical Works: a Net History" (to
>> say "A Net History in Terms of The Internet Architecture, Governance and
>> Technical Work)...? --there would be a discourse map on the special
>> readership which is about a co-presence of mailing lists...? --as one may
>> use search engines of each mailing list for related interests...?
>>
>>
>>
>> To make an engagement with the programme should we go with such tentative
>> journeys considering parts of the special readership...?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> By considering the reasoning above:
>>
>>
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>> To the question on "What is the Internet Architecture?" we may refer to
>> (archival) sources
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> "RFC 1958: Architectural Principles of the Internet"
>>
>> (Carpenter, Brian E. Ed, IAB, 1996)
>>
>>
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>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc1958
>>
>>
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>> (Note:)
>>
>> It was a snapshot record of the principles of the Internet Achitecture
>> intended for general guidance and general interest...
>>
>>
>>
>> It was updated by RFC 3439...
>>
>>
>>
>> Both the concept "Internet Architecture" and the document RFC 1958 have
>> history bringing readers to other relevant sources... They supposedly also
>> give suggestions to come to broader or other conceptual discourses on
>> "governance and technical work"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regard,
>>
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>>