Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount
Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Wed, 24 January 2018 13:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount
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Hi, Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> writes: > Thank you all for the important discussion since the completion of WGLC on Nov 6th. > > Per normal process, drafts typically progress once LC comments are > address unless significant faults are found. Post LC comments have > been made, which needed consideration, notably the relationship with > NMDA and rfc7895bis and an alternate representation of inline schema. > These have been considered respecting their impact on the last call > consensus and it is the position of the chairs that it is best to > advance the existing schema-mount document at this time. I guess I have no chance but strongly object to this. Is it normal to proceed this way without reaching WG consensus and against the will of *both* document authors? > > Given that there are significant concerns for how the solution > proposed in this draft operates with NMDA, we do think it reasonable > to add an applicability statement to the draft that covers its > operation in NMDA implementations. We do not believe that such a > statement substantively alters the draft nor would it impact drafts > that normatively reference the current draft. > > In addition to resolving the remaining open thread [1], Hmm, who resolved this thread? Lou proposed some text and nobody expressed any agreement with it. In fact, I believe it is nothing more than hand-waving. I must say that the work on this draft was very frustrating for me. Even more than on RFC 8022, and this tells you something. Lada > we also agree > with the recently made comment that the schema mount draft should > allow the use of rfc7895bis (i.e., not reference /modules-state), > thereby enabling the draft's use (though not ideal) on servers > supporting rfc7895bis. > > The chairs will propose specific text for the updates mentioned in this message to be reviewed by the WG for correctness before final submission and advancement. > > [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netmod/current/msg20049.html > > Thanks, > Kent, Lou, and Joel > > > > _______________________________________________ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka Head, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67
- [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount joel jaeggli
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Christian Hopps
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount joel jaeggli
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] moving forward with schema mount Lou Berger
- [netmod] Live meeting? and my opinion. [Re: movin… Christian Hopps
- Re: [netmod] Live meeting? and my opinion. Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] Live meeting? and my opinion. [Re: m… David Bannister
- Re: [netmod] Live meeting? and my opinion. [Re: m… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Live meeting? and my opinion. Christian Hopps
- Re: [netmod] Live meeting? and my opinion. [Re: m… Christian Hopps
- Re: [netmod] Live meeting? and my opinion. [Re: m… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Live meeting? and my opinion. [Re: m… Dean Bogdanovic
- Re: [netmod] Live meeting? and my opinion. [Re: m… Christian Hopps
- Re: [netmod] Live meeting? and my opinion. [Re: m… Juergen Schoenwaelder
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