Re: [netmod] [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Thu, 14 April 2022 21:26 UTC

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From: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 14:25:58 -0700
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Subject: Re: [netmod] [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt
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On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 1:41 PM Randy Presuhn <
randy_presuhn@alumni.stanford.edu> wrote:

> Hi -
>
> On 2022-04-14 1:33 PM, Andy Bierman wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 1:13 PM Jürgen Schönwälder
> > <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de
> > <mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>> wrote:
> >
> >     On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 12:48:18PM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
> >
> >      > The proposal is for a 2 year phase to change modules
> >      > that really do want a zone index.  It is not blindly removing the
> >     zone
> >      > index.
> >
> >     People not reading type definitions will also not read a warning
> >     signs. This is blindly removing the zone index in two years, I hardly
> >     see a difference from doing the same (damage) today.
> >
> >
> > A 2 year advance notice is way more than normal in the open source world.
> >
> > There does not seem to be any consensus on the general issues or the
> > specific typedef,
> > or even agreement that OpenConfig (and RFC 4001) got it right and IETF
> > got it wrong.
> >
> > One set of data models treats a zone index as the normal case, not the
> > exception,
> > and the other treats a zone index as the exception.
> >
> > Spinning all the YANG modules that use these typedefs is not going to
> > happen,
> > and not even clear that would help with multi-SDO integration, given the
> > disconnect
> > on the design of the typedefs.
> ...
>
> Why do you believe it is necessary to revise all the YANG modules that
> use the current typedefs?  Have any interoperability problems resulted
> from the use of the current definitions?  The argument that not changing
> the substance of the current definitions would somehow result in the
> need to modify the modules that have used the current definitions is
> a paper tiger, I think.
>

There seems to be many modules where ip-address was used
when the intention of the WG was to use ip-address-no-zone.

The easiest solution is to do nothing, and force the server implementers to
deal with it.
A server is obligated to check all client input.
Any request with a zone index can be rejected instead of accepted.
This solution is compatible with the OpenConfig typedef (unless zone index
actually used).



> Randy
>

Andy


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