Re: [netmod] comments on draft-ietf-netmod-yang-instance-file-format-04

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Sun, 17 November 2019 16:58 UTC

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From: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 08:57:50 -0800
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Subject: Re: [netmod] comments on draft-ietf-netmod-yang-instance-file-format-04
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On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 6:19 AM Balázs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>
wrote:

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> *From:* Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
> *Sent:* 2019. november 7., csütörtök 23:58
> *To:* Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>
> *Cc:* Balázs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>; NetMod WG <
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> *Subject:* Re: [netmod] comments on
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> It seems strange that the details that don't matter at all (like the
> filename) have lots
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> of rules that MUST be followed and the details that actually add standards
> value are left unspecified.
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> Andy
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> BALAZS2: Actually what is missing, unspecified?
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The inline-schema is under-specified.
There is no way for the file reader to know what to expect as the child
nodes of inline-schema.
The file writer can put anything there and a 3rd party reader tool is
expected to support it.

           anydata inline-schema {
             mandatory true;
             description
               "Instance data corresponding to the YANG modules
                specified in the inline-module nodes defining the set
                of content defining YANG modules for this
                instance-data-set.";

           }


Andy