Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (request for WG on meeting)

Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com> Wed, 10 May 2017 16:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (request for WG on meeting)
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> On May 10, 2017, at 11:40 AM, David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Tom is the first to actually post time requests, and now it seems clear that 150 minutes are going to be tight.  
> 
> Tom has quite reasonably asked for twenty minutes.
> No actual time estimates have been posted but it is hard to imagine a charter discussion taking less than 30 minutes
> 
> Assuming Administrivia takes no time, this leaves 100 minutes to divide among:
> Christoph talking about NVMe and an RDMA-based layout.
> Chuck talking about next steps for RDMA.

I don't think anyone wants to hear me droning about RDMA
for 30 minutes. Let's cut this off at 20 minutes.


> Some combination of Andy, me, and Chuck talking about migration, trunking and the interactions between them, for both NFSv4.0 and NFSv4.1.

I can forfeit my time here, though I will participate
actively as an audience member. Migration issues in NFSv4.1
and Andy's multi-pathing work are most interesting to me.


> I think we need to consider having multiple sessions and get the requests made while time is still available.

Focusing on using the existing time wisely seems like a
better approach. Otherwise we will try to fill up 300
minutes and a lot of that will be topics that can easily
be dealt with on list, or for which there is limited
interest.


> In any case, we need to move from "this is what I'd like to hear/talk abut" to "this is my agenda item and this is the time I need to deal with it".

That will leave us with a lot of proposed talks, and no
gauge of what is actually interesting to people. In other
words, IMO both types of responses are valuable.


> Also, there may be people who have felt that, with two months still to go, there is plenty of time left to make requests.  Now that reasonable assumption is no longer valid.  If you need to talk to the group at IETF99, let us know soon.
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Thomas Haynes <loghyr@primarydata.com> wrote:
> Peeking head out of hole in the ground, ground I say!
> 
> Flex files wrap up (to force me to finish) - 10 minutes
> 
> Futures: 10 minutes
> Do not return Open State if a Delegation is also issued
> Soft Quiescing of Writes for Snapshotting
> 
>> On May 8, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Spencer Shepler <sshepler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Thanks for the input.  I have requested a single, 2.5 hour session for IETF99 in Prague the week of July 16th.
>>  
>> Spencer 
>>  
>> From: nfsv4 [mailto:nfsv4-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adamson, Andy
>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 7:08 AM
>> To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>; Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
>> Cc: nfsv4@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (request for WG on meeting)
>>  
>> I would also like to meet and clear up NFS4 and NFS4.1 mulitpath.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -->Andy
>> 
>> From: nfsv4 <nfsv4-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 4:14:07 AM
>> To: Chuck Lever
>> Cc: Christoph Hellwig; nfsv4@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (request for WG on meeting)
>>  
>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 11:28:28AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
>> > I have cycles to help with a draft, if you'd like to offload
>> > some of that work.
>> 
>> Drafting should be easy - I'll need to get my prototype into a shape where
>> I even want to document it.
>> 
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