Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (request for WG on meeting)
David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> Wed, 10 May 2017 19:15 UTC
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From: David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (request for WG on meeting)
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> > Chuck talking about next steps for RDMA. > I don't think anyone wants to hear me droning about RDMA > for 30 minutes. Let's cut this off at 20 minutes. Although I did use the phrase "Chuck talking", I didn't mean that you would be talking (or "droning" as you put it) the whole 30 minutes. I did anticipate that there would be questions and a discussion of the topic, "Next steps for RDMA" in addition to your presentation. > Focusing on using the existing time wisely seems like a better approach. I accept that it might be too late to switch to a longer time. > Otherwise we will try to fill up 300 minutes I want to be clear that I wasn't suggesting that we try to fill up two 150-minute sessions. I believe there are some shorter sessions, including some one-hour ones. On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com> wrote: > > > On May 10, 2017, at 11:40 AM, David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Tom is the first to actually post time requests, and now it seems clear > that 150 minutes are going to be tight. > > > > Tom has quite reasonably asked for twenty minutes. > > No actual time estimates have been posted but it is hard to imagine a > charter discussion taking less than 30 minutes > > > > Assuming Administrivia takes no time, this leaves 100 minutes to divide > among: > > Christoph talking about NVMe and an RDMA-based layout. > > Chuck talking about next steps for RDMA. > > I don't think anyone wants to hear me droning about RDMA > for 30 minutes. Let's cut this off at 20 minutes. > > > > Some combination of Andy, me, and Chuck talking about migration, > trunking and the interactions between them, for both NFSv4.0 and NFSv4.1. > > I can forfeit my time here, though I will participate > actively as an audience member. Migration issues in NFSv4.1 > and Andy's multi-pathing work are most interesting to me. > > > > I think we need to consider having multiple sessions and get the > requests made while time is still available. > > Focusing on using the existing time wisely seems like a > better approach. Otherwise we will try to fill up 300 > minutes and a lot of that will be topics that can easily > be dealt with on list, or for which there is limited > interest. > > > > In any case, we need to move from "this is what I'd like to hear/talk > abut" to "this is my agenda item and this is the time I need to deal with > it". > > That will leave us with a lot of proposed talks, and no > gauge of what is actually interesting to people. In other > words, IMO both types of responses are valuable. > > > > Also, there may be people who have felt that, with two months still to > go, there is plenty of time left to make requests. Now that reasonable > assumption is no longer valid. If you need to talk to the group at IETF99, > let us know soon. > > > > > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Thomas Haynes <loghyr@primarydata.com> > wrote: > > Peeking head out of hole in the ground, ground I say! > > > > Flex files wrap up (to force me to finish) - 10 minutes > > > > Futures: 10 minutes > > Do not return Open State if a Delegation is also issued > > Soft Quiescing of Writes for Snapshotting > > > >> On May 8, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Spencer Shepler <sshepler@microsoft.com> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Thanks for the input. I have requested a single, 2.5 hour session for > IETF99 in Prague the week of July 16th. > >> > >> Spencer > >> > >> From: nfsv4 [mailto:nfsv4-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adamson, Andy > >> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 7:08 AM > >> To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>; Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com > > > >> Cc: nfsv4@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (request for WG on > meeting) > >> > >> I would also like to meet and clear up NFS4 and NFS4.1 mulitpath. > >> > >> > >> > >> -->Andy > >> > >> From: nfsv4 <nfsv4-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Christoph Hellwig < > hch@lst.de> > >> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 4:14:07 AM > >> To: Chuck Lever > >> Cc: Christoph Hellwig; nfsv4@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (request for WG on > meeting) > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 11:28:28AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: > >> > I have cycles to help with a draft, if you'd like to offload > >> > some of that work. > >> > >> Drafting should be easy - I'll need to get my prototype into a shape > where > >> I even want to document it. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> nfsv4 mailing list > >> nfsv4@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> nfsv4 mailing list > >> nfsv4@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nfsv4 mailing list > > nfsv4@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nfsv4 mailing list > > nfsv4@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 > > -- > Chuck Lever > > > > _______________________________________________ > nfsv4 mailing list > nfsv4@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 >
- [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (request fo… spencer shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… Christoph Hellwig
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… Christoph Hellwig
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… Adamson, Andy
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… Spencer Shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… Adamson, Andy
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… spencer shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 99 - July 16-21 - Prague (reques… David Noveck