Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (soliciting agenda items)
David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> Wed, 01 February 2017 11:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (soliciting agenda items)
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I'm not sure whether I'd be able to physically attend, but I'm assuming facilities for remote participation will be available. I'll need 30-40 minutes for extension-related discussion: - One short part will be primarily retrospective, explaining the consequences of the new extension model. The content will not be changed substantially by the completion (or not) of an updated draft for umask, or the progress of AD Evaluation or IESG discussion of the three versioning-related documents. - Another part will be a short proposal for an extension that is a bit bigger than those that have been done so far. No document has yet been submitted but I expect to submit one before the deadline. The idea is to provide some (privileged) clients the ability to be notified of changes in the stateid set of other clients. By treating pNFS data servers as such privileged clients, we could define an optional standard way for metadata servers and data servers to interact, in providing pNFS file support. It appears that this could also support the tight coupling mode of flex files. We will need some time to discuss RDMA-related issues but Chuck and I need to talk about the length of time needed and who will talk about what. Two possible ways of dividing things up: - Chuck could talk about stuff related to Version One including rfc56667bis, while I cover stuff related to Version two including rpcrdma-version-two, rpcrdma-rtrext, and nfsulb (to make the NFS ULBs transport-generic). - Chuck could talk about stuff related to Version One (including rfc56667bis) and rpcrdma-version-two, while I cover stuff related to Version Two extensions including rpcrdma-rtrext and nfsulb. I hope we can hear from Christoph regarding NVMe-related stuff, whether he is able to be physically present or not. In addition, I'd like us to her about the progress of the scsi layout draft. That took eight months to go from -00 to working group consensus :-) and over thirteen months after that and it is not out yet :-(. I think we have a general problem and need to understand it better before we try to fix it. Hearing from Christoph would help us understand what is going on. Other people may have other items so it appears to me that the issue not the length of the session but how many. If you do decide to go with two sessions, one possible division would be: - One session with everything performance-related: RDMA, NVMe, and possibly Andy's trunking-relating work, if he wants to talk about that. - Everything else including the extension stuff. On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 1:48 PM, spencer shepler <spencer.shepler@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi. IETF 98 is coming up (Chicago) and the cutoff date for meeting > requests is Feb 10th. > > Please send in your agenda requests, etc. so that we can determine if we > will be meeting in Chicago and duration of meeting. > > Thanks, > Spencer S. > > > _______________________________________________ > nfsv4 mailing list > nfsv4@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 > >
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… Benjamin Kaduk
- [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (soliciting ag… spencer shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… Christoph Hellwig
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… Spencer Shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… spencer shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… Christoph Hellwig
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… spencer shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… spencer shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] IETF 98 - NFSv4 WG meeting (solicitin… David Noveck