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Re: [Ntp] NTS IANA request

Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Fri, 07 June 2019 14:32 UTC

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From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 08:32:42 -0600
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To: Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net>
Cc: Harlan Stenn <stenn@nwtime.org>, NTP WG <ntp@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] NTS IANA request
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On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 4:14 AM Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> wrote:

>
> stenn@nwtime.org said:
> > My response was intended to be a technical response.
>
> There is no technical content in "total rubbish".
>

In this instance.... The problem here is not the two words, per se, but
that the message it was in response to had multiple items, so it was
ambiguous. Had he said the idea of using clear text passwords over the
internet was total rubbish, that would be fine and actionable because it's
specific.

Warner

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