Re: [Ntp] NTS IANA request
Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> Fri, 07 June 2019 10:14 UTC
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In-Reply-To: Message from Harlan Stenn <stenn@nwtime.org> of "Thu, 06 Jun 2019 20:24:42 PDT." <0e4e607c-15b6-bb20-5e43-7fadeaf36471@nwtime.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] NTS IANA request
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stenn@nwtime.org said: > My response was intended to be a technical response. There is no technical content in "total rubbish". > I don't have the time or the desire to refute all of the wrong claims in this > thread. I thought Daniel's message looked good. If it's "total rubbish", it shouldn't take long to point out some of the problems and/or point out the most obvious fatal flaw. -------- I have a data point to contribute. >From Daniel's message: > As a slight tangent, we never concluded the discussion as to what we're going > to do about the fact that so many ISPs are dropping 123/udp traffic with > payloads larger than 48 bytes. I think we got as far as concluding: I have 2 cloud servers in the pool, one in San Francisco, the other in London. As part of the NTS hackathon a month or two ago, they were helping to debug NTS. There were problems getting NTP+NTS packets to the server in London. I forget the details. Nobody seemed surprised. There was at least one "we've seen it before" comment. Has anybody done a survey? Is there a non-NTS packet over 48 bytes that most servers will respond to? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.
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