Re: [Ntp] NTS IANA request

Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> Fri, 07 June 2019 17:39 UTC

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From: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 10:38:57 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] NTS IANA request
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On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 7:31 AM Danny Mayer <mayer@ntp.org> wrote:

>
> On 6/6/19 2:28 PM, Daniel Franke wrote:
> > As a slight tangent, we never concluded the discussion as to what
> > we're going to do about the fact that so many ISPs are dropping
> > 123/udp traffic with payloads larger than 48 bytes. I think we got as
> > far as concluding:
> >
> > 1. We're never going to persuade enough ISPs to change their policy,
> > making 123/udp basically doomed.
> > 2. NTS-KE's port negotiation record gives us all the mechanism we need
> > in order to run NTP-with-NTS over an alternate port.
>
> We do what we did for EDNS0, get the firewall folks to change their
> policies to allow for larger payloads. It will takes years but firewall
> people have to move with changes as they happen.
>

We do not need to inflict unnecessary pain on ourselves. Measuring is
happening and I know at least one instance of apparent packet loss that was
actually a comparability failure.

However we may need to move ports and should figure out a way to do so.
Another request sounds fine.


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