Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing
Steve Allen <sla@ucolick.org> Tue, 08 December 2020 20:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing
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On Tue 2020-12-08T21:32:15+0100 Kurt Roeckx hath writ: > Whatever value is used in NTP, it's never the true value, it's > always an estimate. Please explain this in the document. > The TAI value we would use is an estimate of > TAI with error bounds. If BIM is off by 12 us, and BIM is used as > a source for NTP, they can either compensate for that 12 us, or add > the 12 us in the error calculation. Rather than TAI I suggest TAI-like, specifically with a parameter N that allows the time scale to be N seconds different than TAI. Particular values of N would be TAI - 0 attempting to match what TAI should be TAI - 10 the POSIX time_t value used for IANA tz "right" zones TAI - 19 the source is GPS system time or Galileo system time TAI - 33 the source is BeiDou system time TAI - 37 the source is Windows10 system time (after 2017-01-01) TAI - N this futureproofs for the next purely atomic source of time -- Steve Allen <sla@ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB 260 Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High Street Voice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064 https://www.ucolick.org/~sla/ Hgt +250 m
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Kurt Roeckx
- [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Steve Allen
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Steve Allen
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Miroslav Lichvar
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- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leapseconds and sme… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leapseconds and… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Steve Allen
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Steve Allen
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leapseconds and… Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leapseconds and… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Timescales, leapseconds and smearing Steve Allen
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leapseconds and… Ulrich Windl
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leapsecon… Ulrich Windl
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Timescales, leapseconds and… Ulrich Windl
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Timescales, leapseconds and… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leaps… Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leaps… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leaps… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leaps… Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leaps… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Timescales, leaps… Ulrich Windl