Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Consensus on Document Split

Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com> Fri, 15 October 2010 04:38 UTC

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From: Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com>
To: "Manger, James H" <James.H.Manger@team.telstra.com>, Blaine Cook <romeda@gmail.com>, "oauth@ietf.org" <oauth@ietf.org>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:38:46 -0700
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This was the proposal posted to the group earlier.

In the past you have strongly promoted separate schemes for each token type, as well as rejected the idea of a single scheme framework with sub-typing. How would you suggest we define a general purpose www-authenticate header that does not have a matching request header?

EHL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oauth-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Manger, James H
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:20 PM
> To: Blaine Cook; oauth@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Consensus on Document Split
> 
> Blaine,
> 
> I am in favour of splitting the specification, but the right dividing line is not
> the whole of section 5 "Accessing a Protected Resource".
> 
> The core OAuth spec needs to keep a section defining a WWW-Authenticate
> response header with which to tell a client that the OAuth "get a token"
> flows can be used to get access to a resource. This is a bit like section 5.2 "The
> WWW-Authenticate Response Header Field".
> 
> Error codes [section 5.2] like "expired_token" or "insufficient_scope" only
> make sense in a spec that defines the flows to renew a token or change its
> scope. I assume that will be the core OAuth spec, not the bearer token spec.
> For comparison, the HTTP BASIC spec does not tell you how to change your
> password or register for a password.
> 
> 
> My suggestion for the editorial split:
> * Remove 5, 5.1, 5.1.1, 5.1.2, and 5.1.3.
> * Keep 5.2, and 5.2.1.
> 
> 
> --
> James Manger
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oauth-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Blaine Cook
> Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2010 11:32 AM
> To: oauth@ietf.org
> Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Consensus on Document Split
> 
> Over the past few weeks, the working group debated the issues around the
> introduction of signatures and the structure of the specification.
> The working group seems to endorse the proposal to split the current
> specification into two parts: one including section 5 (bearer token) and the
> other including the rest (how to obtain a token), with an additional
> specification covering signature use cases.
> 
> This serves as a call for consensus on the proposed editorial work.
> Before we proceed with the changes, the chairs would like to ask if anyone
> has any concerns or objections against this proposal.
> 
> In addition, the chairs are seeking a volunteer to take over the bearer token
> specification (section 5) as editor.
> 
> Please submit your comments by Wednesday, October 20th.
> 
> - The OAuth Working Group Chairs
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