Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond by 5/13)
Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com> Tue, 11 May 2010 23:37 UTC
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From: Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com>
To: Yaron Goland <yarong@microsoft.com>, Torsten Lodderstedt <torsten@lodderstedt.net>
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 16:36:51 -0700
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond by 5/13)
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No one was suggesting putting the assertion in the header. Just the client credentials... EHL > -----Original Message----- > From: Yaron Goland [mailto:yarong@microsoft.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:24 PM > To: Torsten Lodderstedt > Cc: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) > Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond by 5/13) > > Actually it's server side that's the problem. Many servers limit the size of the > HTTP request headers they will accept. Apache 2.2, for example, uses the > LimitRequestFieldSize Directive > (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html). Its default size is 8190 > bytes. IIS, I Believe, defaults to around 16K. But SAML assertions can easily > clock in at 30 or 40k without even trying. > > So as a practical matter we need a way to allow clients to assert their right to > a token using the request body so as to not need to artificially limit the size of > the token that is being submitted. > > Yaron > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:torsten@lodderstedt.net] > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:47 PM > > To: Yaron Goland > > Cc: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) > > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond by 5/13) > > > > Am 11.05.2010 01:43, schrieb Yaron Goland: > > > > > >> --- > > >> > > >> 2. Client Authentication (in flows) > > >> > > >> How should the client authenticate when making token requests? The > > >> current draft defines special request parameters for sending client > > >> credentials. Some have argued that this is not the correct way, and > > >> that the client should be using existing HTTP authentication > > >> schemes to accomplish that such as Basic. > > >> > > >> A. Client authenticates by sending its credentials using special > > >> parameters (current draft) B. Client authenticated by using HTTP > > >> Basic (or other schemes supported by the server such as Digest) > > >> > > >> > > > [Yaron Goland] A is needed at a minimum because there are physical > > limitations to how many bytes can go into an authorization header. > > > > > > > As far as I know, 4KB is the minimum size for headers that must be > > supported by user agents, which should suffice from my point of view. > > Moreover, other HTTP authentication mechanisms need much more than > > 4KB, For example, SPNEGO authentication headers can be up to 12392 > bytes. > > > > regards, > > Torsten. > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> OAuth mailing list > > >> OAuth@ietf.org > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > OAuth mailing list > > > OAuth@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > > > > > > >
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- [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond by … Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… David Recordon
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Manger, James H
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… David Waite
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- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Mark Mcgloin
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Richer, Justin P.
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Mike Moore
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Pid
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Joseph Smarr
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Joseph Smarr
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Yaron Goland
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Robert Sayre
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Pid
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Yutaka OIWA
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Yutaka OIWA
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Vivek Khurana
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Yaron Goland
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Yaron Goland
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Yaron Goland
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Robert Sayre
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Robert Sayre
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Greg Brail
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Kris Selden
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Yaron Goland
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Manger, James H
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Evan Gilbert
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond… Manger, James H