Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond by 5/13)

Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com> Tue, 11 May 2010 23:37 UTC

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From: Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com>
To: Yaron Goland <yarong@microsoft.com>, Torsten Lodderstedt <torsten@lodderstedt.net>
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 16:36:51 -0700
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond by 5/13)
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No one was suggesting putting the assertion in the header. Just the client credentials...

EHL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yaron Goland [mailto:yarong@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:24 PM
> To: Torsten Lodderstedt
> Cc: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org)
> Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond by 5/13)
> 
> Actually it's server side that's the problem. Many servers limit the size of the
> HTTP request headers they will accept. Apache 2.2, for example, uses the
> LimitRequestFieldSize Directive
> (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html). Its default size is 8190
> bytes. IIS, I Believe, defaults to around 16K. But SAML assertions can easily
> clock in at 30 or 40k without even trying.
> 
> So as a practical matter we need a way to allow clients to assert their right to
> a token using the request body so as to not need to artificially limit the size of
> the token that is being submitted.
> 
> 		Yaron
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:torsten@lodderstedt.net]
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:47 PM
> > To: Yaron Goland
> > Cc: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org)
> > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Open Issues: Group Survey (respond by 5/13)
> >
> > Am 11.05.2010 01:43, schrieb Yaron Goland:
> > >
> > >> ---
> > >>
> > >> 2. Client Authentication (in flows)
> > >>
> > >> How should the client authenticate when making token requests? The
> > >> current draft defines special request parameters for sending client
> > >> credentials. Some have argued that this is not the correct way, and
> > >> that the client should be using existing HTTP authentication
> > >> schemes to accomplish that such as Basic.
> > >>
> > >> A. Client authenticates by sending its credentials using special
> > >> parameters (current draft) B. Client authenticated by using HTTP
> > >> Basic (or other schemes supported by the server such as Digest)
> > >>
> > >>
> > > [Yaron Goland] A is needed at a minimum because there are physical
> > limitations to how many bytes can go into an authorization header.
> > >
> >
> > As far as I know, 4KB is the minimum size for headers that must be
> > supported by user agents, which should suffice from my point of view.
> > Moreover, other HTTP authentication mechanisms need much more than
> > 4KB, For example, SPNEGO authentication headers can be up to 12392
> bytes.
> >
> > regards,
> > Torsten.
> >
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