Re: [Ohttp] Discovery

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Fri, 25 June 2021 07:39 UTC

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From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Eliot,

On 19 Jun 2021, at 12:25 am, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:
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> += The working group will consider and address operational matters, so that the output does not introduce any substantial negative impact to existing deployments.

This is a very Russell's Teapot kind of requirement; quantifying that there is no 'substantial negative impact to existing deployments' is a massive undertaking, considering the size of the Internet.

It's also loading a lot into 'operational matters'; the language seems to automatically prioritise them over any other concern engaged by the work. That seems deeply problematic to me; if we're going to prioritise anything, it should not be that. 

Lastly, it is effectively applying the Precautionary Principle to our work. While I strongly support the idea of being more careful and thoughtful in our actions, this is a 180 degree turn for the IETF, and I don't believe it's got the balance right to say that we must be certain there's no harm to a specific constituency to proceed.

Martin's proposal is much more reasonable. 

Cheers,


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