[Ohttp] Off-topic on IETF and public policy (was Re: Discovery)

[Vittorio Bertola <[e-mail]>]

>     Il 25/06/2021 17:31 Andrew Campling <[e-mail]> ha scritto:
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>     On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 15:40, Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>     > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 1:22 AM Andrew Campling <[e-mail] mailto:[e-mail] > wrote:
>     >> Noting RFC8890, if the Internet really is for end users then it seems perfectly valid that, at a minimum, consideration should be given to the operational impact of new protocols.  One way to address this would be to undertake some multi-stakeholder engagement
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>     >I believe that engagement is called "an IETF WG".
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>     I disagree.  If IETF WGs were able to function effectively in multi-stakeholder engagement then it would not have been necessary to issue RFC 8890 and reference the need to undertake such engagement.  The reality is that most WGs are drawn from a relatively narrow pool of people, hence discussions on other lists about the need to improve diversity etc. 
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Speaking of a different limb of the same elephant in the room, I'd like to share Mark's excellent post on the increasingly difficult relationship between global technical standards and national public policy needs:

https://www.mnot.net/blog/2021/06/21/standards-competition-governance

I know this is off topic for this list, as it is a much more general issue than the charter of a specific working group. Yet, we'd really need to have that general discussion somewhere, as the problem of potential conflicts between new standards and the expectations of non-technical stakeholders will pop up in many attempts to start new work.

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