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Re: [OPSEC] [Tsv-art] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-06

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Wed, 05 December 2018 16:46 UTC

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From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
To: Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>
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Subject: Re: [OPSEC] [Tsv-art] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-06
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HI,

On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 03:53:35PM +0100, Ole Troan wrote:
> > Chained EHs are a relict from a time when everybody was nice and 
> > cooperative, bandwith was sparse, routers used CPUs to forward packets,
> > and money came from governments to research networks in huge amounts.
[..]
> This is the exact reason we have layering in the Internet protocols.
> IPv6 routers are not meant to parse further into packets then the IPv6 header (with one exception (1)).
> 
> That network devices find it hard to parse deep into user???s traffic is a feature.
> I find the argument that we should then change upper layer protocols to accommodate that, hard to digest.

Ole, you've worked for a vendor long enough, and understand terms like
"rate limiting" and "hardware".

Please.

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
-- 
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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