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Re: [OPSEC] HbH flags [Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-06]

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Thu, 06 December 2018 09:22 UTC

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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 10:22:21 +0100
From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
To: Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>
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Subject: Re: [OPSEC] HbH flags [Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-06]
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Hi,

On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 09:31:32PM -0800, Joe Touch wrote:
> Again, if HBH headers are meaningless and not needed, then go through the proper process and remove them from IPv6. If not, stop trying to hobble this protocol to the point where we all realize why nobody wants to use it. 

I don't think "lack of extensibility" is the major showstopper in 
IPv6 deployment.

"Endless quarrelling and unimplementable complexity, while lacking
sorely needed aspects that are considered too-hard or out-of-scope" 
might come closer.

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
-- 
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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