Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider
"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Thu, 13 September 2012 16:42 UTC
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To: 'Hannes Tschofenig' <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>, 'Sam Hartman' <hartmans@painless-security.com>
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Subject: Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider
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> -----Original Message----- > From: pcp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Hannes Tschofenig > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:26 AM > To: Sam Hartman > Cc: pcp@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider > > Hi Sam, > > I wonder why you care about PCP at all. You are neither someone who > ships operating systems nor someone who provides network equipment > (like a NAT or a firewall). > > You seem to be willing to spend a lot of time on that topic and I am > curious where this interest comes from. Curiosity is fine, and it was nice of Sam to answer. However, I hope the IETF continues to welcome technical input, even if the person has no "skin in the game" or cannot publicly explain their funding source. -d > Ciao > Hannes > > On Sep 13, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > > > > hi. > > So, as I mentioned earlier I'm either in the camp of strongly > > preferring PCP-specific authentication or in the camp of not caring > much > > at all. > > > > I'd kind of like to find out which camp I'm in by the 21st. > > > > My nervousness is about implementation complexity. I would like to > see > > PCP authentication be something that can easily be implemented with > > open-source libraries. I know how to do that if we use an EAP library > > directly. I've managed projects doing something quite similar and I > > understand the implementation complexity. > > > > Would people familiar with PANA implementation be willing to suggest > > which implementation I should look at? I'd prefer to look at one, but > if > > there's disagreement I'd be happy to look at two. > > I'm sure you've done your analysis on this point but I'll feel more > > comfortable if I do my own. > > > > I'll be happy to share my conclusions as I suspect that there are > other > > WG participants who care about implementation complexity. > > > > If there are open-source PCP servers I'd be happy to glance at those > > just to see how things like memory management, event loop and state > > management line up. > > > > --Sam > > _______________________________________________ > > pcp mailing list > > pcp@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcp > > _______________________________________________ > pcp mailing list > pcp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcp
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- [pcp] Authentication scenarios (was Re: PANA impl… Alper Yegin
- [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was Re: P… Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [pcp] Authentication scenarios (was Re: PANA … Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] [ Side-by-side or nested protocols Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] Authentication scenarios (was Re: PANA … Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] [ Side-by-side or nested protocols Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Alper Yegin
- [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Zhangdacheng (Dacheng)
- Re: [pcp] [ Side-by-side or nested protocols Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Margaret Wasserman
- [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Sam Hartman
- [pcp] gss-eap Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] gss-eap & client-side rexmit only Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] gss-eap & client-side rexmit only Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] gss-eap & client-side rexmit only Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] gss-eap & client-side rexmit only Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] gss-eap & client-side rexmit only Alper Yegin