Re: [pcp] gss-eap & client-side rexmit only
Sam Hartman <hartmans@painless-security.com> Thu, 18 October 2012 13:25 UTC
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From: Sam Hartman <hartmans@painless-security.com>
To: Alper Yegin <alper.yegin@yegin.org>
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Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:25:13 -0400
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>>>> "Alper" == Alper Yegin <alper.yegin@yegin.org> writes: Alper> Sam, You claimed you can design an EAP lower layer that's Alper> always client driven, and gave GSS-EAP as an example of how Alper> you did it. Alper> So, I had already looked at it and still don't see it how. Alper> See below for the last email I sent on this matter which went Alper> unanswered. Hi Alper. I think I've done a number of things to try and walk you through this: * We've had multiple discussions on the list where we discussed whether this was possible in the EAP spec * I pointed you at the gss-eap specification * I gave textual explanations of how it works * I went over it on the call again yesterday * During the PANA implementation discussion I pointed you at an open-source implementation of GSS-EAP and particularly pointed you at the part of the code that interacts with the EAP library. Other people do seem to be following this issue at this point, so I'm afraid we're talking past each other. I'm sorry about that, but perhaps it would make more sense for you to try and work with someone else on this issue. If there are PCP implementors on this who need to discuss this in more detail I'd be happy to try and help as I can. Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:24:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <F06C0780-EF37-435E-B45D-497111E12B47@yegin.org> (Alper Yegin's message of "Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:04:43 +0300") Message-ID: <tslmwzjykt8.fsf@mit.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110009 (No Gnus v0.9) Emacs/22.3 (gnu/linux)
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] PANA implementatinos to consider Margaret Wasserman
- [pcp] Authentication scenarios (was Re: PANA impl… Alper Yegin
- [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was Re: P… Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [pcp] Authentication scenarios (was Re: PANA … Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] [ Side-by-side or nested protocols Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] Authentication scenarios (was Re: PANA … Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] [ Side-by-side or nested protocols Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Alper Yegin
- [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Zhangdacheng (Dacheng)
- Re: [pcp] [ Side-by-side or nested protocols Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Margaret Wasserman
- [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] Side-by-side or nested protocols (was R… Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] EAP-over-PCP Alper Yegin
- [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Sam Hartman
- [pcp] gss-eap Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] EAP retransmits and re-authentication Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] gss-eap & client-side rexmit only Alper Yegin
- Re: [pcp] gss-eap & client-side rexmit only Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [pcp] gss-eap & client-side rexmit only Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] gss-eap & client-side rexmit only Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [pcp] gss-eap & client-side rexmit only Alper Yegin