Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Proposed Standard

["Perry E. Metzger" <[e-mail]>]

Dave Crocker writes:
> At 09:02 PM 5/11/98 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> >
> >Dave Crocker writes:
> >> The need HAS been made MORE urgent by the onset of spam problems and the
> >> need to treat submission markedly different from relaying.
> >
> >I've heard the anti-spam arguments and I just don't belive
> 
> doesn't matter what you or I believe.  what matters is that already 50% of
> the smtp sites on the net have turned off posting from outside their local
> net.

A very good idea.

> This is killing mobile users.

Hardly. I'm a mobile user, and I have no trouble uploading mail, AND I 
have relaying off.

> >anti-relaying -- I have for some time now. It was about twenty lines
> >of code added to my MTA. No big deal.)
> 
> Well, you're lucky that spam control is so easy for you.  It is proving
> rather more problematic for many other sites.

That is far more a question of sites not actively updating or
maintaining their software than anything else, from what I can
tell. If they were running recent versions of most software they could 
get anti-relaying capability. It certainly doesn't appear to be a
protocol problem -- the existing protocols work just fine.

Perry