Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Proposed Standard

"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> Tue, 12 May 1998 01:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Proposed Standard
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:02:41 -0400
From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>

Dave Crocker writes:
> The need HAS been made MORE urgent by the onset of spam problems and the
> need to treat submission markedly different from relaying.

I've heard the anti-spam arguments and I just don't belive
them. Forging in-transit mail is trivial, and implementing
anti-relaying in SMTP servers is also trivial. (My site has
anti-relaying -- I have for some time now. It was about twenty lines
of code added to my MTA. No big deal.)

> It's now time to create a distinct posting service and to create it as
> simply as possible.

I'm not arguing that no posting service has a reasonable use. I'm just 
arguing that the claim that we have a sudden crisis that mandates that 
we take immediate action to push forward this particular protocol
sounded bogus.

Perry