Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Proposed Standard
Dave Crocker <dcrocker@brandenburg.com> Tue, 12 May 1998 01:30 UTC
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:23:50 -0700
To: perry@piermont.com
From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@brandenburg.com>
Subject: Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Proposed Standard
Cc: perry@piermont.com, Jack De Winter <jack@wildbear.on.ca>, ietf-submit@IMC.ORG, ietf@ietf.org
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At 09:02 PM 5/11/98 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > >Dave Crocker writes: >> The need HAS been made MORE urgent by the onset of spam problems and the >> need to treat submission markedly different from relaying. > >I've heard the anti-spam arguments and I just don't belive doesn't matter what you or I believe. what matters is that already 50% of the smtp sites on the net have turned off posting from outside their local net. This is killing mobile users. In any event, I was using that as an indication of heightened concern about treating submission as an independent service. >anti-relaying -- I have for some time now. It was about twenty lines >of code added to my MTA. No big deal.) Well, you're lucky that spam control is so easy for you. It is proving rather more problematic for many other sites. >I'm not arguing that no posting service has a reasonable use. I'm just >arguing that the claim that we have a sudden crisis that mandates that >we take immediate action to push forward this particular protocol The topic lay fallow for about a year. The current urgency has reminded us to finish the work that was already underway. Finish means finish, not start over. d/ _________________________________________________________________________ Dave Crocker Brandenburg Consulting +1 408 246 8253 dcrocker@brandenburg.com 675 Spruce Drive (f) +1 408 273 6464 www.brandenburg.com Sunnyvale, CA 94086 USA
- Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Propose… Dave Crocker
- Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Propose… Lyndon Nerenberg
- Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Propose… Dave Crocker
- Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Propose… Perry E. Metzger
- Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Propose… Dave Crocker
- Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Propose… Perry E. Metzger
- Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Propose… Dave Crocker
- Re: Last Call: SMTP Message Submission to Propose… Jack De Winter