Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts
"Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <sajassi@cisco.com> Fri, 25 July 2008 16:41 UTC
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From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <sajassi@cisco.com>
To: "Stewart Bryant (stbryant)" <stbryant@cisco.com>, pwe3 <pwe3@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts
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Given that Luca has spent time & energy to update this draft (specially for non-Eth sections), I would opt for option (b) (Luca rewrite without Ethernet and WG call of Ethernet draft) with proper editorship list (so credit be given where it is due). - Ali > -----Original Message----- > From: pwe3-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pwe3-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Stewart Bryant (stbryant) > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:17 AM > To: pwe3 > Subject: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts > > > We had hoped to resolve this face to face before the PWE3 > meeting next week but that now looks unlikely. We are > concerned that we need to resolve this without the issue > absorbing all of the time in the WG meeting. > > In order to gauge the consensus of the WG we would would like > to ask some questions. > > When considering how to approach the message mapping document > issue, we think that the most important considerations are: > > 1) That we deliver a high quality document that describes > the design to the implementors and users. > > 2) That the Ethernet design is fully reviewed. > > 3) That there is consistency between the approaches used > for the various OAM mappings. > > 4) That the Ethernet design is delivered in an expedited > manner and the ATM and FR designs are also delivered > in a timely manner. > > > We have three approaches: > > a) LC and publish draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-06.txt, and > > Accept draft-mohan-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk as > a WG document > > b) LC and publish draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-07.txt > (i.e. Luca's rewrite) but without the Ethernet > section, and > > Accept draft-mohan-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk as a WG > document > > c) Use publish draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-07.txt as > the basis for ongoing work. > > Before any document is sent to the IESG for publication we > will ensure contributions are appropriately acknowledged > through editorship, authorship, & acknowledgments. So please > set any such issues aside and focus on the best document to > deliver to our users. > > Please also set aside the poor etiquette that has taken > place, and focus on how best to deliver the required > documentation to the community. On the basis of > considerations 1..4 above, which documentation approach, a, b > or c, do you consider most likely to achieve the goals of the WG? > > > Stewart & Matthew > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pwe3 mailing list > pwe3@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3 > _______________________________________________ pwe3 mailing list pwe3@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Stewart Bryant
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts QIU Ray
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts O'Connor, Don
- [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Stewart Bryant
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts philippe.niger
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Shahram Davari
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts David Allan
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Drake, John E
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Dinesh Mohan
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Shah, Himanshu
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts AISSAOUI Mustapha
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Busschbach, Peter B (Peter)
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts AISSAOUI Mustapha
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Hamid Ould-Brahim
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Busschbach, Peter B (Peter)
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Don Fedyk
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts nabil.n.bitar
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts HENDERICKX Wim
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Simon Delord
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts BALUS Florin
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Luca Martini
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts MULEY Praveen
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Busschbach, Peter B (Peter)
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts AISSAOUI Mustapha
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Luca Martini
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Yaakov Stein
- Re: [PWE3] OAM Msg Mapping Drafts Yaakov Stein
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- Re: [PWE3] PW bonding draft Yaakov Stein
- Re: [PWE3] PW bonding draft HENDERICKX Wim
- Re: [PWE3] PW bonding draft Yaakov Stein
- Re: [PWE3] PW bonding draft Lucy Yong
- Re: [PWE3] PW bonding draft Yaakov Stein
- Re: [PWE3] PW bonding draft Lucy Yong
- Re: [PWE3] PW bonding draft philippe.niger
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