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Re: Consensus Calls for Transport/TLS issues, post-Cupertino

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Mon, 28 October 2019 23:34 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 16:34:16 -0700
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Subject: Re: Consensus Calls for Transport/TLS issues, post-Cupertino
To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
Cc: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>, Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>, Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>, David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>, Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>, IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>, Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:47 PM Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019, at 10:01, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > I think we're clearly going to need to spend some time on this. I don't
> > think the spec is satisfactory as-is: we should be designing a
> > transport that works for all use cases, not just H3. That said, I also
> > don't agree that we need an additional explicit signal. We have one,
> > it's called "ACK". We should figure out how to make that work.
>
> I think that we've established that ACK doesn't work without something to
> push it along.


No, I don't agree with that assessment.

-Ekr

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