Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures
"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Mon, 20 April 2009 17:24 UTC
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From: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>
To: 'Gonzalo Camarillo' <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures
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Thanks for incorporating those changes, -d > -----Original Message----- > From: Gonzalo Camarillo [mailto:Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com] > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:15 AM > To: Dan Wing > Cc: rai@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures > > Hi Dan, > > thanks for your comments. Answers inline: > > Dan Wing wrote: > >> the IAB has just submitted the following draft: > >> > >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-p2p-archs-00.txt > >> > >> Comments are welcome. > > > > Please add Gnutella, BitTorrent, and Skype to section 2. I > > noticed BitTorrent isn't mentioned in the document at all. > > I have added BitTorrent to Section 2. However, I would not > like to have > too many examples in that section. Since Skype and Gnutella > were already > mentioned somewhere else in the document, I have not added new > subsections with them in Section 2. > > > You might also mention Octoshape's > don't-look-under-the-covers P2P video > > streaming application, > > > http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/02/cnn-p2p-video-streamin > g-tech-raises-qu > > estions.ars > > > > I have added references to Octoshape. > > > > > end of Section 5.3, > > traditional SIP, which relays on a rendezvous server > infrastructure. > > ^^^^^^ > > relies > > Fixed. > > > Section 6, > > we have discussed a number of > > perfectly legitimate applications that have been > implemented using > > P2P. > > > > I would drop "perfectly" from that sentence. (Same phrase > is in Section 1). > > (Are there imperfectly legitimate applications?) > > I would like to stress the fact that there are *fully* legitimate. If > you have a suggestion to give more emphasis to the sentence without > using "perfectly", let me know. > > > To your list of legitimate uses of p2p technology in > Section 6, you might also > > consider adding the "unofficial release" by Nine Inch Nails > of 400Gb of > > time-synchronized multiple-camera HD video footage from > three concerts using > > BitTorrent, http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?52,378166. > The trackers are on > > nin.com's own website. > > Since this is yet another example of content distribution using > bittorrent, I do not think we need to add it to the document... but > thanks for the reference anyway. It is interesting! > > Thanks for your comments, > > Gonzalo
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- Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures Dan Wing
- Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures Dan York
- Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures Dan Wing
- Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures Enrico Marocco
- Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures Enrico Marocco
- Re: [RAI] Draft on P2P architectures Gonzalo Camarillo