[Rats] use case document updates on Roots of Trust
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 08 September 2019 13:22 UTC
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Subject: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of Trust
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We seem to have regular email disputes on terms like Roots of Trust. I continue to have difficulty with the term. Particularly in the plural "Roots" form. As I process edits to the use case document, I got a bunch of text: The TCG Glossary also offers a general definition for Root of Trust “A component that performs one or more security-specific functions, such as measurement, storage, reporting, verification, and/or update. It is trusted always to behave in the expected manner, because its misbehavior cannot be detected (such as by measurement) under normal operation. “ {I personally find it very difficult to understand the words as other than an alias for Trust Anchor, yet it clearly is something else. It's hard to make my neurons pull up a different meaning. This is probably something that every RATS document should say clearly upon first using the term, in order to ease the impedence mis-match with IETF readers as we get reviews} I have included not just Ned Smith's comments about the term Roots of Trust, but his survey of the various origins of the term. I'm sure that this belongs somewhere else. That diff is here: https://ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-richardson-rats-usecases-04&url2=https://ietf-rats-wg.github.io/ietf-rats-usecases/draft-richardson-rats-usecases.txt and commit is: https://github.com/ietf-rats-wg/ietf-rats-usecases/commit/7386e8c0df11ece66e3c95f85d141a639d440e12 -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
- [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of Trust Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Ira McDonald
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Ira McDonald
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Smith, Ned
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Ira McDonald
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Smith, Ned
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Salz, Rich
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Carl Wallace
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Jeremy O'Donoghue
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Salz, Rich
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Carl Wallace
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rats] use case document updates on Roots of … Michael Richardson
- [Rats] 答复: use case document updates on Roots of … Xialiang (Frank, Network Standard & Patent Dept)
- Re: [Rats] 答复: use case document updates on Roots… Carl Wallace
- [Rats] 答复: 答复: use case document updates on Roots… Xialiang (Frank, Network Standard & Patent Dept)