RE: [Widex] Widex Servers...

But does the client/renderer communicate directly with the server or via
a proxy/gateway (even if the client is not aware of the proxy)?

Vlad

>-----Original Message-----
>From: ext Chaz Ginger [mailto:eprparadocs@gmail.com] 
>Sent: 07 February, 2006 18:03
>To: Stirbu Vlad (Nokia-TP-MSW/Tampere)
>Cc: widex@ietf.org
>Subject: Re: [Widex] Widex Servers...
>
>Vlad,
>
> We are back at the beginning.  Having run a number of 
>"public" sites I can say with some amount of certainty that 
>they are behind NATs.  I am sure there are some webservers 
>(well Widex servers in this case) that sit directly on the IP 
>network, but they are the exception rather than the rule. 
>
>Chuck Wegrzyn
>
>
>Vlad.Stirbu@nokia.com wrote:
>> It seems that I misunderstood your previous example... I 
>thought that 
>> you were talking about Widex servers in corporate networks. So, for 
>> service providers like Google or Yahoo, the server front-end has a 
>> globally routable, public IP address (and/or FQDN), similar 
>to section 
>> 4.1.2.
>>
>> Vlad
>>
>>   
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ext Chaz Ginger [mailto:eprparadocs@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 07 February, 2006 16:40
>>> To: Stirbu Vlad (Nokia-TP-MSW/Tampere)
>>> Cc: widex@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Widex] Widex Servers...
>>>
>>> Vlad,
>>>
>>> Perhaps you can explain to me how someone like Google, MSN or Yahoo 
>>> would offer Widex based services? Are you thinking they would use a 
>>> VPN?
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> Vlad.Stirbu@nokia.com wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Yes, but in most of those scenarios you are not accessing
>>>>       
>>> the servers
>>>     
>>>> directly but through some kind of VPN, making the Widex
>>>>       
>>> Renderer part
>>>     
>>>> of the same network as the Widex Server, case which is already 
>>>> described in the document.
>>>>
>>>> Vlad
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ext Chaz Ginger [mailto:eprparadocs@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: 07 February, 2006 16:03
>>>>> To: Stirbu Vlad (Nokia-TP-MSW/Tampere)
>>>>> Cc: widex@ietf.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Widex] Widex Servers...
>>>>>
>>>>> Vlad,
>>>>>
>>>>> Why wouldn't you include the case of the Widex server behind a 
>>>>> firewall? I would expect that to be the most common case.
>>>>> Most companies that I know and work for all use some sort of 
>>>>> firewall. Am I missing something?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>> Vlad.Stirbu@nokia.com wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: widex-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:widex-bounces@ietf.org] On 
>>>>>>> Behalf Of ext Chaz Ginger
>>>>>>> Sent: 06 February, 2006 17:12
>>>>>>> To: Dean Willis
>>>>>>> Cc: widex@ietf.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [Widex] Widex Servers...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >From looking at the requirement docs I noticed that there
>>>>>>> isn't a model
>>>>>>> for a Widex Server behind a NAT.  Why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> We haven't considered the case when the Widex Server to be
>>>>>>           
>>> behind a
>>>     
>>>>>> NAT device to be very common. For this reason it was not
>>>>>>           
>>> included in
>>>     
>>>>>> the scope of this document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Also why the model where both the server and the renderer
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>> are behind
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>>> the NAT? Is this specifically to address the notion of 
>localized 
>>>>>>> discovery?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> Yes, this scenario is specifically related to localized 
>discovery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vlad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>     
>>
>>
>>   
>
>

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