Re: [Widex] Widex Servers...

Vlad,

 We are back at the beginning.  Having run a number of "public" sites I
can say with some amount of certainty that they are behind NATs.  I am
sure there are some webservers (well Widex servers in this case) that
sit directly on the IP network, but they are the exception rather than
the rule. 

Chuck Wegrzyn

Vlad.Stirbu@nokia.com wrote:
> It seems that I misunderstood your previous example... I thought that
> you were talking about Widex servers in corporate networks. So, for
> service providers like Google or Yahoo, the server front-end has a
> globally routable, public IP address (and/or FQDN), similar to section
> 4.1.2.
>
> Vlad 
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ext Chaz Ginger [mailto:eprparadocs@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: 07 February, 2006 16:40
>> To: Stirbu Vlad (Nokia-TP-MSW/Tampere)
>> Cc: widex@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Widex] Widex Servers...
>>
>> Vlad,
>>
>> Perhaps you can explain to me how someone like Google, MSN or 
>> Yahoo would offer Widex based services? Are you thinking they 
>> would use a VPN?
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Vlad.Stirbu@nokia.com wrote:
>>     
>>> Yes, but in most of those scenarios you are not accessing 
>>>       
>> the servers 
>>     
>>> directly but through some kind of VPN, making the Widex 
>>>       
>> Renderer part 
>>     
>>> of the same network as the Widex Server, case which is already 
>>> described in the document.
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ext Chaz Ginger [mailto:eprparadocs@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: 07 February, 2006 16:03
>>>> To: Stirbu Vlad (Nokia-TP-MSW/Tampere)
>>>> Cc: widex@ietf.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Widex] Widex Servers...
>>>>
>>>> Vlad,
>>>>
>>>> Why wouldn't you include the case of the Widex server behind a 
>>>> firewall? I would expect that to be the most common case.
>>>> Most companies that I know and work for all use some sort of 
>>>> firewall. Am I missing something?
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>> Vlad.Stirbu@nokia.com wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: widex-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:widex-bounces@ietf.org] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of ext Chaz Ginger
>>>>>> Sent: 06 February, 2006 17:12
>>>>>> To: Dean Willis
>>>>>> Cc: widex@ietf.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Widex] Widex Servers...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >From looking at the requirement docs I noticed that there
>>>>>> isn't a model
>>>>>> for a Widex Server behind a NAT.  Why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> We haven't considered the case when the Widex Server to be 
>>>>>           
>> behind a 
>>     
>>>>> NAT device to be very common. For this reason it was not 
>>>>>           
>> included in 
>>     
>>>>> the scope of this document.
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Also why the model where both the server and the renderer
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> are behind
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> the NAT? Is this specifically to address the notion of localized 
>>>>>> discovery?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Yes, this scenario is specifically related to localized discovery.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vlad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>       
>>     
>
>
>   

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