Re: [rfc-i] What do do about SVG

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 16 December 2020 01:28 UTC

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On 16-Dec-20 14:08, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
> There are a whole host of issues that were raised.  The agreement was to 
> get simple graphics first, and then work on the othe rissues.
> 
> For example, if one allows color, how does one ensure readability by 
> those who are color blind.
> Similarly, if one allows gray scale, how does one make sure the result 
> is understandable to those who do not perceived detailed contrast 
> differences as easily.

Both of which are made worse by an assumed requirement to be able to
use a monochrome printer, where colours may not be distinguishable
and pale hues may be invisible.  (Speaking purely for myself, I
really resent the price gouging for coloured inks.)

   Brian

> 
> And scripting is a nightmare all its own.
> 
> Some issues are easier.  For example, external URLs simply fail the test 
> for archival representation.
> 
> Yours,
> Joel
> 
> On 12/15/2020 7:54 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>> On 12/15/20 5:51 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>
>>> Restrictions we do need, IMHO, include
>>> - no colour
>>> - no greyscale
>>> - no scripting
>>> - no external URLs
>>> - use viewbox and *no* height/width, to allow proper scaling
>>
>> ISTM that the "no colour" and "no greyscale" are only there in lieu of 
>> the unstated requirement:
>>
>>     Only allow drawings that can be also be drawn using text
>>     graphics while retaining the key information content.
>>
>> Otherwise I don't see now they are justified. Am I missing something?
>>
>>      Thanks,
>>      Paul
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