Re: [rfc-i] What do do about SVG

[Adam Roach <[e-mail]>]

It is increasingly sounding like we got ourselves in this pickle by 
coming up with some reasonable policy decisions (no greyscale, no 
animations, no scripts, no external references), and then decided to use 
a technical enforcement mechanism by way of an SVG profile.

Perhaps rather than using syntax to enforce policy, we could shift to 
using editorial control to enforce policy. That is, we specify that 
non-ASCII diagrams in RFCs are in full-fledged SVG, which has really, 
*really* good support in a lot of tools. And then put have in place 
instructions to the authors and to the RPC that describe the policy 
restrictions (such as those I list above), along with a tool -- in the 
style of id-nits -- that helps identify (in an advisory way) when those 
policies might not have been followed.

/a

On 12/15/20 19:27, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 16-Dec-20 14:08, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
>> There are a whole host of issues that were raised.  The agreement was to
>> get simple graphics first, and then work on the othe rissues.
>>
>> For example, if one allows color, how does one ensure readability by
>> those who are color blind.
>> Similarly, if one allows gray scale, how does one make sure the result
>> is understandable to those who do not perceived detailed contrast
>> differences as easily.
> Both of which are made worse by an assumed requirement to be able to
> use a monochrome printer, where colours may not be distinguishable
> and pale hues may be invisible.  (Speaking purely for myself, I
> really resent the price gouging for coloured inks.)
>
>     Brian
>
>> And scripting is a nightmare all its own.
>>
>> Some issues are easier.  For example, external URLs simply fail the test
>> for archival representation.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Joel
>>
>> On 12/15/2020 7:54 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>>> On 12/15/20 5:51 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Restrictions we do need, IMHO, include
>>>> - no colour
>>>> - no greyscale
>>>> - no scripting
>>>> - no external URLs
>>>> - use viewbox and *no* height/width, to allow proper scaling
>>> ISTM that the "no colour" and "no greyscale" are only there in lieu of
>>> the unstated requirement:
>>>
>>>      Only allow drawings that can be also be drawn using text
>>>      graphics while retaining the key information content.
>>>
>>> Otherwise I don't see now they are justified. Am I missing something?
>>>
>>>       Thanks,
>>>       Paul
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