[rfc-i] FYI sub-series and RFC 1150 - proposal to update

housley at vigilsec.com (Russ Housley) Wed, 27 April 2011 04:14 UTC

From: "housley at vigilsec.com"
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:14:48 -0400
Subject: [rfc-i] FYI sub-series and RFC 1150 - proposal to update
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Olaf:

Yes, the last posting to the FYI sub-series was from the Independent Stream; however it obsoletes RFC 2828, which was on the iETF Stream.  We could esplore whether this was an error, but it it not worth it at this point.

Russ


On Apr 26, 2011, at 5:41 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote:

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> On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Russ Housley wrote:
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>> I have just posted a proposed 1150bis.  This document reflects the IESG discussion to date
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>> draft-iesg-rfc1150bis-00 
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> Russ, 
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> Thanks for posting the draft. You've seen a variation of what follows so this is for public record:
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> First, It is not clear to me whether the FYI series is IETF Stream only or cross stream. The last FYI was an independent submission (before the streams existed, but you get the idea). I do not know that whether that was a conscious decision. Granted, at the time the RFC editor put the approval process with the User Services WG and that is closely aligned with the current concept of an IETF Stream. To me that is an indication that if other streams would want to use the FYI series we need clarification.
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> Second, I am happy that the IESG will not issue more FYIs on the IETF stream, and I do not expect other streams will publish documents on the sub-series (partly because of the need for clarification in that case). 
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> Third, I even think it makes sense to burry the whole lot. 
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> But, fourth,  I think this is an Editorial Matter. Mainly since the FYI was established by the RFC Editor and because a vision about sub-series is something that we would expect a future RSE to develop. 
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> Therefore I wouldn't rush the formal cremation of the FYI sub-series. The intention to not approve any publications on the FYI series is currently sufficient.
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> - --Olaf
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