Re: [Rfced-future] RFC Editor liaison to the IAB? [was: Re: Comment on draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-12]

OK, I will take that as settling this point. I will submit draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter-08 with the liaison removed, for Lars to approve the posting if he agrees.

He still has to decide if that needs a 2nd last call, because it's a bit of a stretch to call it an editorial change.

Regards
    Brian Carpenter

On 14-Mar-22 23:24, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> While I think it’s a good idea to probably document who is liaising with the IAB at each point of time, I don’t think we need to 
add the text you proposed to do that. For me the liaison that are listed in RFC2850 are the ones that are mandatory to accept for the IAB (as the community thinks that close interaction of these groups is important). However, I don’t think RFC2850 restricts the IAB in anyway to add additional liaisons (given liaisons don’t really have any special right in the process).
> 
> Mirja
> 
> 
>> On 12. Mar 2022, at 02:58, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> --On Saturday, March 12, 2022 13:40 +1300 Brian E Carpenter
>> <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12-Mar-22 13:21, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
>>>> On 2022-03-12 05:40, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>>>> +1 to removing the liaison (no one seems to think it's
>>>>> needed) and +1 to the proposed text.
>>>>
>>>> +1 from me, too. I'm also okay if John Klensin's text gets
>>>> included, but I don't really think that text is necessary.
>>>> The IAB can talk to anybody they like at any time anyway.
>>>
>>> Another point is that the rfcefdp program would be stepping
>>> outside its
>>> role to propose a generic change to the IAB charter. I'd
>>> expect that sort
>>> of change to be proposed by the IAB itself.
>>
>> And I would like to hear from the IAB, or IAB members on this
>> subject.   If I am the only one who would like to leave that
>> door open, so be it.  If making the change that way seems
>> reasonable and noting that this is the first time the charter
>> document has been modified in more than 21 years in spite of far
>> greater changes to the IAB than the liaison list, why not put it
>> here and avoid extra work.  But the decision should definitely
>> be in the IAB's hands.
>>
>>     john
>>
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