Re: [Rfced-future] RFC Principles - long delayed

Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Thu, 11 November 2021 17:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] RFC Principles - long delayed
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Thanks Mike,

I find these to useful foundations. On the whole I might take them as well-known, but I think that future-proofing the discussions by setting out this text is helpful.

It will, of course, disturb Brian and Eliot if we have to spend time on this discussion now, but it seems to me that if we don't have agreement on these points (the major points, not the wordsmithing) then we have an elephant in the room with us. Failing to address that elephant now would be gross neglect.

Since I agree with this text, I find it hard to understand which points someone might disagree with. It would be helpful that if someone is made uncomfortable by this text, they could at least flag the high level what their concerns are so I can see the scale of the disagreement.

I do understand that some might say, "There is no need to include this material," but this comes back to my first point, and putting in writing something you don't consider necessary is not immediately harmful.

Cheers,
Adrian

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From: Rfced-future <rfced-future-bounces@iab.org> On Behalf Of Michael StJohns
Sent: 11 November 2021 17:21
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Subject: [Rfced-future] RFC Principles - long delayed

I apologize for the delay in providing the following.  This is the 
aftermath of Stephen's question/comment about heritage and it morphed 
into a document that attempts to describe current RFC series 
principles.  I've passed this by 1/2dz or so folk and this incorporates 
their comments.




# Principles for the RFC Editor Series

The following principles provide some guidance as to the scope of
documents that the RSWG may propose and the RSAB may approve.
Documents or proposals which suggest modifications of any of the
principles shall require additional approvals past that of the
RSWG/RSAB, specifically consent from the IAB, IESG and the LLC and
such approvals shall be granted only after gaining strong community
consensus for such a change.


## Availability

The RFC series documents have been freely available digitally for more
than 35 years.  No change shall be made to the model which would
introduce fees for access to any or all of the RFC series documents.
Distribution of RFCs shall continue to be subject to the Trust
license<<REF:
https://trustee.ietf.org/documents/trust-legal-provisions/>>.

## Accessibility

There is a general goal to make the RFC series documents as accessible
as possible to communities that have special needs - e.g. seeing
impaired. Proposals that might negatively impact accessibility shall
require the approvals of the IESG, IAB and LLC in addition to that of
the RSAB.

## Publication Language

The publication language of the series is, and shall remain, English.
No action shall be taken which will prohibit the publication of
translations of the RFC series in other languages, but the normative
content language of an RFC shall remain English.


## Commonality of Purpose

The RFC series is the general publication system for information
related to the Internet, networking technology, and community
discussions on those topics.  Neither an expansion nor contraction of
that scope is desired.


## Diversity of Interests

The RFC series has published thought experiments, speculative ideas,
research papers, histories, humor [RFC1149, RFC2549], and even
eulogies [RFC2468].  And, more recently, Internet standards.  Each of
these RFCs and their communities have contributed to the rich history
of the RFC series, and to its somewhat human-centric take on networking.
If we did not acknowledge this and attempt to conserve the means of
such expression we would probably be poorer for it.

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maintain diversity of interests in the system, neither of these
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## Breadth of Expression

While the RFC series has its own brand and style, the series is
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The RFC Editor System provides both publication and archival services
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RFC Editor System must find the necessary balance between the
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acknowledging a finite set of resources to complete both aspects of
the RFC Editor System functions.

As there may be legal implications related to changes in archive
policy, changes in the applicability of RFC8153 to the RFC Series, and/or
changes to RFC8153 shall require the approvals of the IAB, IESG and
LLC in addition to RSAB approval.


## World-class Publication

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key to the success of the RFC Series. The publication process is
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