Re: [rtcweb] Question about the status of various drafts

Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> Fri, 05 July 2013 21:25 UTC

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I think you need to take dependencies into account.   There are several reasons for this: 
   a. Until you've gone through the dependency graph for the items, the full list of documents that need to be tracked isn't known.    b. Estimates of completion are dependent on the progress of normative dependencies (e.g. they can't be published until the dependencies are resolved). 

As an example,  draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview (which is listed as 80 percent complete) has normative references to the following drafts: 
   [I-D.ietf-mmusic-sctp-sdp] 70   [I-D.ietf-rtcweb-audio] 50   [I-D.ietf-rtcweb-data-channel] 70   [I-D.ietf-rtcweb-jsep] 50   [I-D.ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage] 40   [I-D.ietf-rtcweb-security] 80   [I-D.ietf-rtcweb-security-arch] 80   [I-D.nandakumar-rtcweb-stun-uri] 80   [I-D.tuexen-tsvwg-sctp-dtls-encaps] 70            Since draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview is dependent on a document (rtp usage) which only has an estimate of 40 percent done) I'd say that the estimate is probably closer to 40 than 80. 

> From: fluffy@iii.ca
> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:47:20 -0700
> To: rtcweb@ietf.org
> Subject: [rtcweb] Question about the status of various drafts
> 
> 
> As part of putting together some chair slides for Berlin, I'm trying to get a very rough idea of where things are. I'd like to get folks input on what percent done various drafts are where Done is a published RFC. 
> 
> This is nearly impossible to do at any level of accuracy but I do want to get a vague idea. I took a very rough stab below just to have a starting point to get the conversation going. I'm sure my numbers are mostly wrong but I have tried to ask a few people and sort of take the central cluster of the guess. If you think I am way out, please provide some feedback of what you think the number actually is.
> 
> I'm happy to get feedback on specific drafts or feedback of the form they are all too low or too high. I do encourage people to realistically look at the data tracker to see how long other drafts have taken for each stage to get a baseline instead of just going with their gut feel. 
> 
> Thanks, Cullen
> 
> PS - if you are an author and look at the number next to your draft and think it is way off, please please, say something. 
> 
> 
> 
> draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview		80
> draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements	70
> http://dev.w3.org/2011/webrtc/editor/getusermedia.html	70
> draft-burnett-rtcweb-constraints-registry		80
> http://dev.w3.org/2011/webrtc/editor/webrtc.html	50
> draft-nandakumar-rtcweb-stun-uri		80
> draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uris		80
> draft-ietf-rtcweb-security		80
> draft-ietf-rtcweb-security-arch		80
> draft-muthu-behave-consent-freshness-02 	50
> draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-channel		70
> draft-ietf-mmusic-sctp-sdp		70
> draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-protocol 		50
> draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-dtls-encaps		70
> draft-ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage		40
> draft-ietf-avtcore-6222bis		80
> draft-ietf-avtcore-avp-codecs		80
> draft-ietf-avtcore-srtp-encrypted-header-ext	80
> draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates		70
> draft-lennox-rtcweb-rtp-media-type-mux 		80
> draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-circuit-breakers		70
> draft-ietf-avtcore-multi-media-rtp-session 	70
> draft-lennox-avtcore-rtp-multi-stream		70
> draft-ietf-rtcweb-jsep		50
> draft-ietf-mmusic-msid		70
> draft-rescorla-mmusic-ice-trickle		25
> draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation	50
> draft-nandakumar-mmusic-sdp-mux-attributes	25
> draft-dhesikan-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos		10 or 90
> draft-ietf-rtcweb-audio		50
> draft-ietf-payload-rtp-opus		90
> draft-ietf-payload-vp8-08		95
> 
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