Re: [rtcweb] Please require user consent for data channels

Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Sat, 18 July 2015 09:23 UTC

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From: Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:22:59 +0200
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2015-07-18 3:31 GMT+02:00 Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>:
> The OS can - and frequently does - get that wrong. The default route can
> fail when another might succeed.
>
> You can't allow that to happen if you care about connecting successfully.

Are we talking about ICE gathering and STUN/TURN servers? or are we
talking about p2p ICE connectivity?


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Iñaki Baz Castillo
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