Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-01.txt

Wolfgang Beck <wolfgang.beck01@googlemail.com> Mon, 14 November 2011 11:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-01.txt
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On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Wolfgang Beck
> <wolfgang.beck01@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> If not, how is the content of the data stream -- the 'codec'
>> -- negotiated between the different JS clients? ROAP will not work as
>> it is the JS clients which writes to the data stream. The ROAP
>> component of the browser doesn't know what's in there.
>
> The format of the data stream will be standardized.

Now it gets interesting: who is responsible for the rtcweb-data content?

if it is the browser:
- every new application will have to be standardized.
- for every new application, the browser has to be updated.
***whether we do server-to-server or not***

It basically means every rtcweb-data application needs to get the
approval of Firefox, Google, and Microsoft.

If it is the JS client:
- the JS client has to handle Offer/Answer. The browser doesn't know
enough about the content to do this.


Wolfgang Beck