Re: [rtcweb] Asking TLS for help with media isolation

Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> Fri, 04 April 2014 01:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Asking TLS for help with media isolation
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On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote:
> As I described briefly at the last meeting, ensuring that media is
> isolated from the application or web site is a key part of addressing
> our security goals.
>
> The key part of that is making sure that any media that is isolated on
> the sending side of RTCPeerConnection remains isolated when it reaches
> the other side.
>
> As I noted, this is also necessary in order to ensure the integrity of
> the same origin model.  In that model, cross origin media is required
> to be inaccessible to content, and as it stands RTCPeerConnection
> could be used to work around those restrictions (implementations can
> implement other protections, as Firefox already does).
>
> The alternatives as I see them (and I hope that this is sufficiently
> exhaustive) are:
>
>  1. ask the TLS working group for a TLS-based solution
>  2. build something into the session signaling (i.e., new SDP bits)
>  3. give up on the idea
>
> I prefer 1 for reasons already outlined.

Putting on my TLS hat, TLS already lets you send data across the
network securely. Why does this bit need to be treated differently
from all others?

Sincerely,
Watson Ladd


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