Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not!
Randell Jesup <randell1@jesup.org> Tue, 19 July 2011 17:06 UTC
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On 7/19/2011 10:28 AM, Magnus Westerlund wrote: > The traffic between two RTCWEB peers from the various components, such > as RTP sessions, datagram service: > > a) MUST be sent as Individual flows for each component. > > b) MUST be multiplexed into a single transport flow. > > c) SHOULD be multiplexed into a single transport flow, but the RTCWEB > peer MUST be able to send them as individual flows. C). I understand the appeal of a). However, we already have minor issues with handling congestion across multiple streams - i.e. congestion notification goes to one flow, but not generally to the other flows that make up the total traffic between these two points. This leads to sub-optimal response to congestion, and as the number of flows increases this would get worse. Now, this really isn't mandated by the multiplex/non-multiplex nature; it's just easier and more obvious when they're multiplexed. The other big issue is as you add more than a single or two streams, the overhead and side-issues around ICE/etc get more ... interesting. In particular you can get (I assume) cases where different streams that are meant to be synchronized and follow the same route go over different paths/interfaces. If we only had to deal with 1 audio stream, or 1 audio and 1 video stream, the balance would be different. But in the world this spec will work in I strongly believe more than 2 streams will often exist. (Witness Google's "Huddle"). -- Randell Jesup randell-ietf@jesup.org
- [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Elwell, John
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Colin Perkins
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Colin Perkins
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Colin Perkins
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] To multiplex or not! Magnus Westerlund
- [rtcweb] Support for websockets Avasarala, Ranjit
- Re: [rtcweb] Support for websockets Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Support for websockets Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Support for websockets Christopher Blizzard
- Re: [rtcweb] Support for websockets Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Support for websockets Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Support for websockets Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Support for websockets Salvatore Loreto