Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC
Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> Fri, 11 July 2014 16:08 UTC
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From: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:07:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC
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The fact that WebRTC implementations MUST ignore the address and port in the c=/m= lines will be written into JSEP, S 5.6/5.7. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> wrote: > >> > >> On 07.07.14, 21:48, Roman Shpount wrote: > >>> > >>> Is it possible to run into ICE-Mismatch with WebRTC? Should we specify > >>> that default candidate (c= and m= line based candidate) should be > >>> ignored and thus mismatch check should not be performed? > >> > >> > >> I guess running into an ICE mismatch with WebRTC is just as possible as > >> with any other ICE implementation. I suppose the only difference would > be > >> that rather than falling back to 3264 semantics, WebRTC implementations > will > >> rather drop the session because without ICE, they wouldn't be able to do > >> consent checks for it. > >> > > > > My point was that WebRTC would never use 3264 semantics > > Indeed. This was also my point. > > > and use address from > > c= and m= lines for any purpose, so why does it need to check that this > > address is correct? Would it be more sensible just ignore whatever value > > happen to be there? > > With the exception of trickle ICE's use of :: (or 0.0.0.0) an ICE > mismatch indicates that there is an entity on the signalling path that > is overwriting c= line addresses and m= line ports. The idea of > dropping ICE here is that the infrastructure is likely performing > Hosted NAT Traversal and latching so insisting on ICE is likely to > lead to unexpected situations. > > > Or, better yet end point can generate an error instead > > of generating a response with ice-mismatch. > > Agreed. Sending an answer with ice-mismatch means downgrading to basic > 3264 and that doesn't make sense for WebRTC. > > Agreed. > > Emil > > -- > https://jitsi.org > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >
- [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Kevin Dempsey
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Kevin Dempsey